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As bad as the refs have been… the pass rush from our defense these first two weeks has been completely non existent and it cost us there

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And yet 8 men in coverage, they still allow a TD.

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Holy **** JW

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Jameis just lost the game

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Multiple open receivers there.

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Ball hits the ground... but of course favor Bucs.

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Jameis is awful.

Even Taysom was better.

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They forced Jameis to dink and dunk and knew he would force it eventually

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But he was great for one quarter last week!

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Blind Squirrel...
TB had to get a nut somehow...even if it's gift wrapped by the refs.

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With JW at your QB you know there’s going to be games like this. He’s been off all game

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I wonder if the cracked spine has any effect on the long ball...

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Jameis only started to make completions when the Falcons backed off last week

For 3 quarters, he struggled against arguably the worst team in the league.

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If he’s hurt and shouldn’t play, he should sit and get healthy. Our defense and some game managing can get us in the playoffs.

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Turnovers may have cost us today.

Not to mention the ejection of Latt, & then the refs ... late.

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Dalton will be playing at some point this season

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Latt should not have retaliated. It's cost us. Maybe we miss Ceedy?

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Another incompletion to Olave.

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I think there is an argument the refs and Goodell are so strongly against us that we can't afford to build a franchise in a traditional way. There is too much parity in the NFL to get to and win the Superbowl while managing the salary cap year to year and playing against the refs too. What we might need to do is acquire the sort of stars that Goodell needs to market the NFL and also instead of managing the salary cap year to year, get way under the cap and then spend it all in 1-2 years. Goodell can prevent us from ever winning a Super Bowl now. Say its a conspiracy, say I have a tin hat, but the facts bear it out from the no call to last week to today.

Here would be my plan to overcome Goodell, as he is more determined than ever this year to sabotage us. Trade all our assets. Dump salary cap. Acquire draft picks. Effectively tank. Put ourselves in a position to draft a player like Arch Manning a few years down the road. While we get in that position get way under the salary cap and roll over our surpluses. If we acquire a young prime high profile star like Arch Manning, either through our own tanked draft picks or through draft picks we acquire in trade, Roger Goodell may be unable to tilt the refs against us, because he may need that player to succeed to market the NFL and drive ratings. Then as that player enters prime years, unload all the spent salary cap on acquiring more stars to surround them. Focus on stars not just with good skills but also who are very marketable and hard for the NFL to throw under the bus with refs. Cap timing, using saved up cap when you have a young QB on a rookie deal, is the way around parity in the NFL, even if it can't build decade long dynasties. Goodell can afford to ruin Winston's career with refs throwing the monetum against him. He can't afford to ruin the career of an Arch Manning type QB where he will get a call from State Farm and Nike. I wish we could build a long term winner and get rings like Belichick and Brady, but I don't think they would have won any Superbowls with the ref treatment we are getting.

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Pete Carmichael needs to rethink his game plan. No offense....just not a winning formula.

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No question Jameis screwed an awesome defensive game

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edit

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Winston’s saving grace last week was 1 quarter of football. Other than that, he’s been atrocious.

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Winston ****ing sucks.

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I don't get it. Had TUNNEL vision for Olave today. MT was open on the sideline! What the actual ****!

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so much for the LASIK

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OMG

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I appreciate the passion. But we can't go the tanking route. It wouldn't help. We could have drafted Pat Mahomes and the NFL wouldn't let him have the star treatment with us.

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As the saying goes it’s just 1 game but the way JW played in this game … not promising.

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I can't justify targetting Olave with double digits and not feeding Mike. He's your BEST weapon.

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This is crazy - 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter and up to this point neither team has used a timeout throughout the whole game. That has to be some kind of record.

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I disagree. We have to try something. Hear no evil, see no evil ain't working. The NFL is using the refs to tilt every close game in our opponents favor every week and they are getting more brazen every year.

Say we had drafted Maholmes but the refs are still against us. Maholmes still makes some amazing throws and plays in high scoring games and racks up big stats. He is still young and likable. State Farm and Dominos Pizza and Nike sign him to endorsements. Then when the NFL doesn't give him star treatment and calls back all his big plays, Goodell gets calls from State Farm, Dominos, and Nike. I think that makes a real difference. I don't think we can afford to be a gritty veteran lunch pail team full of second chances. We can only beat Goodell if we hit him in the pocket book or if we have such an amazing team that few games are close (only possible if we get under the cap and then load up all at once).

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I like Alontae Taylor a lot.

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Nice job, Alontae

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I thought the ground can’t cause a fumble

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it can

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His foot touched the corner on the way down man. That’s not a fumble.

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It's a fumble because he wasn't touched down by defender.

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They need to change that rule. I wouldn't mind if NFL made it like college when if you're down, play is over. Would get rid of nonsense like this.

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I hate it as well.