We would regret dumping Michael Thomas the way Atlanta regrets dumping Matt Ryan today.
 

The Falcons took an unthinkable cap hit to dump Matt Ryan this offseason. He had all the tools and many said he wasn't the problem, but he just kept showing this one pesky flaw over and over, choking in the spotlight, so they did it.

Michael Thomas' one pesky flaw is missing 40 of his last 50 games (counting for being out for the rest of this year). The cap hit to get rid of him may be unthinkable. He may have all the tools. But Matt Ryan is gonna Matt Ryan and Michael Thomas is gonna Michael Thomas. Can't rehab Mike.

So think about how Falcons fans must feel today. Well, next year when Michael Thomas suffers a season ending pinky toe laceration compounded by chronic conjunctivitis and gingivitis, we can either be feeling 'thank god we dumped him' like they are, or we can be feeling 'not again, but you couldn't have predicted this, so lets give Dennis Allen another year.'

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Doing what the Falcons do has never been considered a recipe for success.

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You have to respect your enemies. You can't just say we will do nothing they do ever. Do you never want a new stadium? Do you never want a good salary cap situation? We have to keep up with the Jones to beat the Joneses. I can't imagine any world where their parting ways with Julio Jones and Matt Ryan was not a resounding success. Clearly continuing to pay those players would have been an anchor on their franchise. Now they go into 2023 with more cap and more draft picks and less aging dead weight, when they already have a better record and younger team than us this year. We have to respect that if we intend to surpass it. Thomas and Peat are our Jones and Ryan. We need to take the plunge and get rid of them. If your rival starts running laps and makes a fast time you don't say you want do it because they did, you run faster. If anything, we should get rid of more dead weight and clear more cap than the Falcons. You don't win a game of HORSE by quitting. You match their shot and then you do them one better.

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Ok. But most of that has nothing to do with how they handled Ryan and the cap hit. That was the point of your post. I was tongue in cheek pointing out that just because Atl decided to handle Ryan one way doesn’t mean we
should do the same with Thomas.

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Ummm Matt Ryan just replaced 28-3 with 33-0. I'm sure Atlanta is thrilled he left.

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Thats my sarcastic point. Matt Ryan choked again. Michael Thomas will be injured again next year because nobody comes back from missing 40 of 50 games and is suddenly reliable. Atlanta is thrilled today. I want to be thrilled next year when Thomas is on another team and goes on IR with with a grade 4 stubbed toe.

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very sensible and accurate post

:bng:

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[QUOTE=BakoSaint;965455]You have to respect your enemies. You can't just say we will do nothing they do ever. Do you never want a new stadium?

NEVER!!!

The Superdome is iconic and just needs an occasional face lift. Other than that the old girl is still doing a great job.

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[quote=Rugby Saint II;965628]The Superdome is currently undergoing a massive interior facelift which is going to make it state of the art. The location is such that it will continue to host Super Bowls for many, many years to come.

Re: We would regret dumping Michael Thomas the way Atlanta regrets dumping Matt Ryan today.
 

There’s no comparison between Thomas and Ryan. Matt has been terrible most of his career. Mike has been great and injured.

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I just think I'm pretty sure we've seen the last of Michael Thomas in a Saints' uniform, and I don't really care what happens to him -- if we can get something for him, great, even something minimal; and if we can't, then he rides the bench until he's gone. I just don't think of him as really part of the team anymore.

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He showed in the first two games this season that he still can't be stopped. We'd have a killer starting three with Thomas, Olave, and Shaheed. You don't bench your best WR. It doesn't matter what some fans may think, but as long as the team thinks he's part of the team then he is whether those fans think so or not.

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Bye Mike....errr....Prima Donna:dunce:

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Re: Michael ThomasTrue Dat! So we can expect ten unstoppable Michael Thomas games in every 50 the Saints have to play.
Also true. What does the team think?
I comprehend what you are saying, but as a fan, I believe it does matter what all fans think. They are the "customers".

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With the way that his contract is structured he will be a New Orleans Saint next year. Hopefully, he'll be healthy enough to contribute to the team this time around. If not, trading him next year when it's more affordable makes sense. f he's healthy he's still good!

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You are assuming that he will get injured again. And what does the team think? If they didn't want him back they wouldn't be putting so much effort into making sure he'll be able to return healthy. As for what some fans want, no it doesn't matter at all. Most fans want nothing more than the team to be successful. They don't have some sort of contrived agenda against Thomas. As for the rest, once again, the team doesn't give a flying rat's ass. They also want nothing more than to win and if they feel having Thomas on the field gives them that best chance guess where he'll be? That's right ... on the field in the Saints' black and gold.

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Fixed it for you, Rugs.

;)

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I know of no precedent in the entire history of the nfl where a player missed 40 of 50 games and then returned to be reliable long term. Betting tens of millions of dollars on something that have never happened before is not wise. It would be worth any cap hit in the short term to flush less money down the toilet long term. Waiting because of how his contract is structured would be dumb because Loomis will just restructure it again where we have to wait next offseason too. This is why Peat is still on the team.

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I know of no precedent where the very best WR in the NFL missed 40 of 50 games and didn't return to dominate the league once again and remain reliable long term. Creating dead cap while allowing what could once again be the most dominating player in the league to walk away and lead another team to the Lombardi Trophy would be dumb. That's why I expect the brilliant Loomis to once again convert Thomas' base salary of $15.5 million and his roster and workout bonuses of 950K to signing bonuses to free up cap to help make another run for the championship in 2023.

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Here's Michael in the boot required for his recovery yesterday and a couple of other pics.

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Bet those kids have worn a Jersey more times than Thomas has in the past 3 years.

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Now that’s funny !

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I doubt that. They were all gifted the jersey's yesterday. It was a special day that all of these kids will remember for the rest of their lives. Pretty cool!

:bng:

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Well at least the kids definitely get to PLAY more than him.

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"Terrible" most of his career (124-109-1)? I hate Atlanta more than most but if you look at his numbers (cmp %/att/int %) over 14 seasons, I don't see terrible with Matt.

Choke artist ... sure, but you simply don't last this long, throw over 63k yards at this level playing terrible.

Mediocre would seem more appropriate :bng:.

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One would think that this time of year might generate a bit of compassion instead of the usual hate. Oh, well. :(

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I have generated quite a bit of compassion all year long.

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Compassion? Lol

Boo hoo a Millionaire can't do his job and is still getting paid, quick grab the violins! Lol

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Playing some air violin right about now.

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….

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I've actually come to the conclusion that Michael Thomas will probably be here next year because it is too expensive to cut him. When he's healthy he's a beast! Chris olave and Rashid Shahid would pair up quite nicely with Michael Thomas working the underneath routes.

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I expect no less. Money means nothing when it comes to compassion. There's currently over way 300 players in the NFL on IR and all of them are getting paid, but I'll guarantee you every last one of them would rather be on the field doing what they love rather than having to work their asses off trying to go through recovery to get back to their true passion.

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I expect much more.

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You have said you are old and expect to croak very soon and can’t hold out for a rebuild. I hope you live longer than you expect. But I don’t want to turn this franchise into the biggest joke in the nfl because you are biased by your health concerns. You may outlive Michael Thomas. Lots and lots of nfl careers of big stars have ended with chronic injury at many positions. None have recovered from injury over 40 of 50 games. Its just not gonna happen. Focus on your own heath. I am sure there are lots of precedents for people your age living long enough for a football rebuild, yet you insist on Mikes hopeless cause not your own hopeful one.

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Don't worry about me. I plan to live well into my 90's. You should see that peering into your crystal ball. Yes, lots of NFL careers of big stars have come to an end because of chronic injuries. But, I haven't heard that the two totally unrelated injuries (left ankle and toe on right foot) suffered by Michael Thomas can be classified as "chronic". It has been stated many, many times before that the NFL is a 100% injury business. Every player is going to experience injuries at some point or other in their careers. Nobody besides the good Lord above has any clue as to when and/or how long they may last. Every indication is that Thomas is well underway on his recovery from this last surgery and there is no reason he won't be as unstoppable moving forward as he was in the first two games of this season prior to the unexpected injury.

Yet, I always want to win now. The economic structure being used by our front office gives us the best opportunity to remain relevant each and every year. I understand you have a differing opinion of how that should work, but fortunately it looks like nothing you can say or do will change that direction. Once we get by this stretch of bad injury luck and settle into a competent starting QB we should be challenging for the title again.

:bng:

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:rofl: Nnneevverr gonna happen.. :rofl

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