NFL plans active offseason conversation about eliminating “hip-drop” tackles

neugey · 02-07-2023, 01:15 PM

I'm curious about the way "hip-drop" tackle is prohibited in rugby. What is the clear definition? How are players instructed to prevent making such a tackle? Can it even carry over to American football, if not abused or perverted?

Rugby Saint II · 02-07-2023, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I'm curious about the way "hip-drop" tackle is prohibited in rugby. What is the clear definition? How are players instructed to prevent making such a tackle? Can it even carry over to American football, if not abused or perverted?

Rugby does not allow the dump tackle where a tackled players shoulders hit the ground before his hips. We outlawed High tackling above the armpit long ago. Personally, I don't understand what is unsafe about the hip drop tackle. Most injury at tackle in rugby occurs to the defensive player using poor technique.

AsylumGuido · 02-07-2023, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I'm curious about the way "hip-drop" tackle is prohibited in rugby. What is the clear definition? How are players instructed to prevent making such a tackle? Can it even carry over to American football, if not abused or perverted?

Here's a good tutorial that Australia's NRL put out after banning the hip-drop tackle defining what is and is not a hip-drop tackle.

Key indicators of a hip drop tackle

It translates very easily into American football. Tackling is pretty much the same process in rugby as it is in football.

Rugby Saint II · 02-07-2023, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Here's a good tutorial that Australia's NRL put out after banning the hip-drop tackle defining what is and is not a hip-drop tackle.

Key indicators of a hip drop tackle

It translates very easily into American football. Tackling is pretty much the same process in rugby as it is in football.

It's basically a judo takedown where you take your opponent's force and redirect it into a body slam. The used to be legal back when I was young and the laws were looser.

It's not necessarily a penalty unless the referee considers it to be foul play, which is unnecssary excessive force, and not in the spirit of good sportsmanship. Rugby is wholeheartedly moving toward the direction of player safety.

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02-07-2023, 01:15 PM	#1
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: NFL plans active offseason conversation about eliminating “hip-drop” tackles Originally Posted by neugey I'm curious about the way "hip-drop" tackle is prohibited in rugby. What is the clear definition? How are players instructed to prevent making such a tackle? Can it even carry over to American football, if not abused or perverted? Rugby does not allow the dump tackle where a tackled players shoulders hit the ground before his hips. We outlawed High tackling above the armpit long ago. Personally, I don't understand what is unsafe about the hip drop tackle. Most injury at tackle in rugby occurs to the defensive player using poor technique. SmashMouth likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: NFL plans active offseason conversation about eliminating “hip-drop” tackles Originally Posted by neugey I'm curious about the way "hip-drop" tackle is prohibited in rugby. What is the clear definition? How are players instructed to prevent making such a tackle? Can it even carry over to American football, if not abused or perverted? Here's a good tutorial that Australia's NRL put out after banning the hip-drop tackle defining what is and is not a hip-drop tackle. Key indicators of a hip drop tackle It translates very easily into American football. Tackling is pretty much the same process in rugby as it is in football. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: NFL plans active offseason conversation about eliminating “hip-drop” tackles Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Here's a good tutorial that Australia's NRL put out after banning the hip-drop tackle defining what is and is not a hip-drop tackle. Key indicators of a hip drop tackle It translates very easily into American football. Tackling is pretty much the same process in rugby as it is in football. It's basically a judo takedown where you take your opponent's force and redirect it into a body slam. The used to be legal back when I was young and the laws were looser. It's not necessarily a penalty unless the referee considers it to be foul play, which is unnecssary excessive force, and not in the spirit of good sportsmanship. Rugby is wholeheartedly moving toward the direction of player safety.

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