Can't Guard Mike

K Major · 03-28-2023, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I’m a big fan of late draft picks/UDFA to fill out WR corps. Colston and Shaheed come to mind.

I was really hoping Nick Toon (4th rd) would become the truth.

Never panned out

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AsylumGuido · 03-28-2023, 03:44 PM

While I am confident Thomas will be ready to go and as effective as ever, I agree that even more help at WR would be welcome. Also, while Tre'Quan is a competent #4 or #5 WR I'd rather we had at least five better options going into the season. As it stands right now we have three in Thomas, Olave, and Shaheed. Maybe Edwards is the fourth better option. We shall see. One or two more could make Tre'Quan, Kirkwood, Merritt, and/or Baker expendable.

AsylumGuido · 03-28-2023, 04:42 PM

New Orleans Saints receiver Michael Thomas making progress in recovery

From the article:

"I don't want to get into specifics on that, but yet, he's making progress in the recovery," Allen said. "He's not 100 percent, and we're going to be cautious with it and take our time. We don't want to put him out there until he's 100 percent."

"I think the acquisition of Derek was big in that thought process (of Thomas wanting to remain a Saint)," Allen said. "I don't want to speak for Mike, but I honestly just think that Mike knows, and a lot of players know, that they work for one of the better organizations in our league and we're going to have a chance to do some good things this year.

"I expect him to be fully healthy and ready to go. When that point is, I don't want to get into those speculations. But we feel good about where he's at."

He also mentioned that he expects both Penning and Ruiz to be ready to go, as well, after recovering from their own foot injuries.

subguy · 03-30-2023, 07:01 AM

It appears Mr. Reliable is making progress. Not 100% yet and DA says he won't put him out there until he is. The longest recovery in the history of recoveries...saga continues.

According to AG we are asking too much of the guy to expect 100%. S_hit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up quicker.

K Major · 03-30-2023, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by subguy

It appears Mr. Reliable is making progress. Not 100% yet and DA says he won't put him out there until he is. The longest recovery in the history of recoveries...saga continues.

According to AG we are asking too much of the guy to expect 100%. S_hit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up quicker.

Yeah, I hear you there.

At this point, all you can do is HOPE for his health. A 30-year-old who has missed the last 40 of 50 games & still isn't 100. Toe & ankle injuries ... as we see, can & will linger.

If he contributes in 2023, great. It's lagniappe

.

Hopefully, Bryan Edwards shows up at camp and subsequent games on Sundays.

AsylumGuido · 03-30-2023, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by subguy

It appears Mr. Reliable is making progress. Not 100% yet and DA says he won't put him out there until he is. The longest recovery in the history of recoveries...saga continues.

According to AG we are asking too much of the guy to expect 100%. S_hit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up quicker.

Longest recovery in the history of recoveries? He was fully recovered from the ankle injury when he took the field at the beginning of last season and scored three times in two games. Then he had the totally unrelated injury. He was then misdiagnosed by Saints doctors and later told he needed surgery. That was in November, so he's only been recovering for a little over four months for a procedure that takes up to six months of recovery.

And where did I say anyone was asking too much of the guy to expect 100%? I said at this point nobody should expect 100%. However, I do expect 100% before it's time to go.

saintsfan1976 · 03-30-2023, 08:07 AM

If we get 50% of his production from 2016-2019, Michael Thomas will be worth the money.

K Major · 03-30-2023, 09:43 AM

Healthy or not, draft another dawg next month.

Olave and Shaheed are promising but you'll need a lot more.

Boston Saint · 03-30-2023, 11:05 AM

I think we would all be happy if MT can play this year and ball out for the Saints (maybe not map). Odds aren’t that great right now, however.

I will say that without him, we only win 6 games last year. He pulled that Atl game out of his….well, you know where. So, he was healthy going into last year. This toe is a different, new injury.

The front office apparently worked things out for one more try. If he doesn’t perform the contract seems to be set up to release him. I don’t see his contract as an anchor for a decade. Peat’s re-work is similar. If they don’t perform this year, they will be gone. Same way guys like Armstead left in the past.

vpheughan · 03-30-2023, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I think we would all be happy if MT can play this year and ball out for the Saints (maybe not map). Odds aren’t that great right now, however.

I will say that without him, we only win 6 games last year. He pulled that Atl game out of his….well, you know where. So, he was healthy going into last year. This toe is a different, new injury.

The front office apparently worked things out for one more try. If he doesn’t perform the contract seems to be set up to release him. I don’t see his contract as an anchor for a decade. Peat’s re-work is similar. If they don’t perform this year, they will be gone. Same way guys like Armstead left in the past.

He pulled that ATL game out of his….SOMEONE knows all about those!!!

03-28-2023, 01:18 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by Boston Saint I’m a big fan of late draft picks/UDFA to fill out WR corps. Colston and Shaheed come to mind. I was really hoping Nick Toon (4th rd) would become the truth. Never panned out .

03-28-2023, 03:44 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,722	Re: Can't Guard Mike While I am confident Thomas will be ready to go and as effective as ever, I agree that even more help at WR would be welcome. Also, while Tre'Quan is a competent #4 or #5 WR I'd rather we had at least five better options going into the season. As it stands right now we have three in Thomas, Olave, and Shaheed. Maybe Edwards is the fourth better option. We shall see. One or two more could make Tre'Quan, Kirkwood, Merritt, and/or Baker expendable.

03-28-2023, 04:42 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,722	Re: Can't Guard Mike New Orleans Saints receiver Michael Thomas making progress in recovery From the article: "I don't want to get into specifics on that, but yet, he's making progress in the recovery," Allen said. "He's not 100 percent, and we're going to be cautious with it and take our time. We don't want to put him out there until he's 100 percent." "I think the acquisition of Derek was big in that thought process (of Thomas wanting to remain a Saint)," Allen said. "I don't want to speak for Mike, but I honestly just think that Mike knows, and a lot of players know, that they work for one of the better organizations in our league and we're going to have a chance to do some good things this year. "I expect him to be fully healthy and ready to go. When that point is, I don't want to get into those speculations. But we feel good about where he's at." He also mentioned that he expects both Penning and Ruiz to be ready to go, as well, after recovering from their own foot injuries.
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03-30-2023, 10:03 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,722	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by subguy It appears Mr. Reliable is making progress. Not 100% yet and DA says he won't put him out there until he is. The longest recovery in the history of recoveries...saga continues. According to AG we are asking too much of the guy to expect 100%. S_hit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up quicker. Longest recovery in the history of recoveries? He was fully recovered from the ankle injury when he took the field at the beginning of last season and scored three times in two games. Then he had the totally unrelated injury. He was then misdiagnosed by Saints doctors and later told he needed surgery. That was in November, so he's only been recovering for a little over four months for a procedure that takes up to six months of recovery. And where did I say anyone was asking too much of the guy to expect 100%? I said at this point nobody should expect 100%. However, I do expect 100% before it's time to go.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

03-30-2023, 08:07 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can't Guard Mike If we get 50% of his production from 2016-2019, Michael Thomas will be worth the money.

03-30-2023, 07:01 AM	#4
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,104	Re: Can't Guard Mike It appears Mr. Reliable is making progress. Not 100% yet and DA says he won't put him out there until he is. The longest recovery in the history of recoveries...saga continues. According to AG we are asking too much of the guy to expect 100%. S_hit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up quicker.

03-30-2023, 09:50 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by subguy It appears Mr. Reliable is making progress. Not 100% yet and DA says he won't put him out there until he is. The longest recovery in the history of recoveries...saga continues. According to AG we are asking too much of the guy to expect 100%. S_hit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up quicker. Yeah, I hear you there. At this point, all you can do is HOPE for his health. A 30-year-old who has missed the last 40 of 50 games & still isn't 100. Toe & ankle injuries ... as we see, can & will linger. If he contributes in 2023, great. It's lagniappe . Hopefully, Bryan Edwards shows up at camp and subsequent games on Sundays.

03-30-2023, 09:43 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can't Guard Mike Healthy or not, draft another dawg next month. Olave and Shaheed are promising but you'll need a lot more.

03-30-2023, 11:05 AM	#9
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Can't Guard Mike I think we would all be happy if MT can play this year and ball out for the Saints (maybe not map). Odds aren’t that great right now, however. I will say that without him, we only win 6 games last year. He pulled that Atl game out of his….well, you know where. So, he was healthy going into last year. This toe is a different, new injury. The front office apparently worked things out for one more try. If he doesn’t perform the contract seems to be set up to release him. I don’t see his contract as an anchor for a decade. Peat’s re-work is similar. If they don’t perform this year, they will be gone. Same way guys like Armstead left in the past.
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03-30-2023, 11:21 AM	#10
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,557	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by Boston Saint I think we would all be happy if MT can play this year and ball out for the Saints (maybe not map). Odds aren’t that great right now, however. I will say that without him, we only win 6 games last year. He pulled that Atl game out of his….well, you know where. So, he was healthy going into last year. This toe is a different, new injury. The front office apparently worked things out for one more try. If he doesn’t perform the contract seems to be set up to release him. I don’t see his contract as an anchor for a decade. Peat’s re-work is similar. If they don’t perform this year, they will be gone. Same way guys like Armstead left in the past. He pulled that ATL game out of his….SOMEONE knows all about those!!!
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