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AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 11:09 AM

Saints Pick 4.01 - OL Nick Saldiveri
 

AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 11:10 AM

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AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 11:12 AM

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They said they selected him as guard. Peat's competition now it looks. Can also play tackle.

iceshack149 04-29-2023 11:12 AM

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Overview
Three-year starter with good overall size/length and the potential to play multiple spots along the offensive line. Saldiveri is naturally athletic and should fit best as a zone blocker or pulling guard who can get out into space and find work. Hand skill and placement are consistent issues on tape and could prevent him from neutralizing NFL opposition at a functional level. If he proves he can snap the ball and makes a move to center, that should improve his draft stock and give him a better chance as a pro.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/nick-s...9-0b592fdccc0b

AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 973413)

Saints perfect fit with versatility across the whole offensive line.

turbo_dog 04-29-2023 11:16 AM

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Did they really need to give up a pick to trade up for him?

AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 973415)
Did they really need to give up a pick to trade up for him?

If they wanted to make absolutely sure they got him ... yes. As fans we may see these players as interchangeable. Just numbers in a queue. I believe they have specific players they have targeted as must additions and will do whatever it takes to acquire them. You don't want to take the chance of losing them. As Loomis has said many times, "When we have someone we want we go and get them."

AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 11:28 AM

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Talk about adding beef on the offensive line ...


Edit: By the way, great interview here.

SmashMouth 04-29-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 973412)
They said they selected him as guard. Peat's competition now it looks. Can also play tackle.

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 973413)

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 973414)
Saints perfect fit with versatility across the whole offensive line.

Popeys Sammich Peat eventual replacement. He may start at some point this year. Not sure yet to move up in the 4th what we gave up for him.

AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 973423)
Popeys Sammich Peat eventual replacement. He may start at some point this year. Not sure yet to move up in the 4th what we gave up for him.

You do if you absolutely have him on your board as a "do not miss". This wasn't a knee jerk move. They had all night to come to this decision and didn't settle for anything less than the very first pick. We gave up a 5th rounder. No big deal, really.

SmashMouth 04-29-2023 11:41 AM

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"How dumb are DLs" ? :rofl:

He is a smart dude.




AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 11:49 AM

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neugey 04-29-2023 11:53 AM

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Another in a long line of mercurial Saints OL picks. But a nice share of them pan out.

I suppose the move up feels justified seeing the run on OL come after him. OL depth is huge. I hope he can transition to guard if needed. He seems more polished vs the pass than Penning, so maybe this is a way of covering our bases in case Penning can't really pass protect. Crossing my fingers!

AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 973431)
Another in a long line of mercurial Saints OL picks. But a nice share of them pan out.

I suppose the move up feels justified seeing the run on OL come after him. OL depth is huge. I hope he can transition to guard if needed. He seems more polished vs the pass than Penning, so maybe this is a way of covering our bases in case Penning can't really pass protect. Crossing my fingers!

I believe he's already played some guard. And the Saints drafted him specifically as guard. From what they just said on NFL Network the team designates the position when making the pick.

And, yes, eight of the next 17 picks have been OL.

Edit: Make that 9 of the first 19 since he was selected.

SmashMouth 04-29-2023 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 973432)
I believe he's already played some guard. And the Saints drafted him specifically as guard. From what they just said on NFL Network the team designates the position when making the pick.

And, yes, eight of the next 17 picks have been OL.

Edit: Make that 9 of the first 19 since he was selected.

He'll be cross trained, as they do all OL.

AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 02:09 PM

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BakoSaint 04-29-2023 02:41 PM

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I like this pick. We really needed oline depth at both guard and tackle so a vertsatile player is great. We obviously value versatility a lot but versatility is kind of pointless if we only have 5 oline who are better than street free agents or undrafted rookies. If we only have 5 and they are all versatile it accomplished nothing because swapping them around still leaves us with a street free agent type starting somewhere if any injury happens, and swapping regular starters around to change exactly what position we have to put a street free agent in just creates a second problem, a player covering a position they are less familiar with and a street free agent at another position. But if we have 6 or 7 decent oline, versatility can help us keep the no name street guys off the field all together.

Trading up is not so bad when you use present year picks to do it, as long as you don't trade so many that you deplete your depth. My big issue is I hate trading future year picks because they are often valued at 30-50% less than present year, and keeping them also provides insurance, if you have an off year they get higher. When you trade a future year pick at half the value it will have a year or two from now, you are effectively giving your competitors passive income with a high rate of return investment. Its like raiding your 401k and taking early withdrawal penalties to buy a car. Trading up is more like swapping two cars for a nicer car, which is fine, as long as you have enough cars, is not a financial boondoggle.

Thirty3 04-29-2023 05:34 PM

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I like the pick. Don't mind the move up to get him. Like the "get your guy" mentality. We've had great scouting since Ireland.

K Major 04-29-2023 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 973518)
I like the pick. Don't mind the move up to get him. Like the "get your guy" mentality. We've had great scouting since Ireland.

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AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 973518)
I like the pick. Don't mind the move up to get him. Like the "get your guy" mentality. We've had great scouting since Ireland.

Yup! I love the "get your guy" mentality. Why be forced to pick from what's left when it gets to you ... when you can go and get exactly what you want?

:bng:

SmashMouth 04-29-2023 09:04 PM

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AsylumGuido 04-30-2023 12:35 PM

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K Major 05-01-2023 03:24 PM

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I know they say he's "raw", but I'd like him to transition to GUARD.

The Saints do have a proven record of finding gems on the OL from smaller programs. Those big uglies don't get enough love.

The keyword on Nick is versatile. Coach him up Doug M!

Rugby Saint II 05-03-2023 12:14 PM

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The Saints envision him playing guard from what I understand. He looks like a dawg! He'll see playing time this year when Peat goes down.

AsylumGuido 05-08-2023 03:42 PM

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AsylumGuido 05-08-2023 03:47 PM

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SmashMouth 05-15-2023 12:06 PM

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