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K Major 05-30-2023 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 974683)
Wide Receiver seems like a deep position for us. Much deeper than prior years.

Michael Thomas
Chris Olave
Rashid Shaheed
Bryan Edwards
James Washington
A.T. Perry
Tre’Quan Smith

That’s good depth. Not to mention Juwan Johnson and Foster Moreau. I don’t have many concerns there.
Amazing how it's changed (roster) since Dennis became HC.

IMO that "I like our WR room" philosophy held us back & advancing while Brees was still under center. Who are you scaring with Callaway, Smith & Lil Jordan & Kirkwood?

Blockzilla (Trequan) has one foot off a cliff & the other on a banana peel in 2023. Slots #4-6 will have to excel on special teams/gunners to make this roster.

I see legitimate competition from these younger guys & I like how DA & staff are addressing needs (DT, WR, QB), in subsequent drafts.

Boston Saint 05-30-2023 12:18 PM
Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 974694)
Amazing how it's changed (roster) since Dennis became HC.

IMO that "I like our WR room" philosophy held us back & advancing while Brees was still under center. Who are you scaring with Callaway, Smith & Lil Jordan & Kirkwood?

Blockzilla (Trequan) has one foot off a cliff & the other on a banana peel in 2023. Slots #4-6 will have to excel on special teams/gunners to make this roster.

I see legitimate competition from these younger guys & I like how DA & staff are addressing needs (DT, WR, QB), in subsequent drafts.
To be fair though, he did spend high round picks on Cooks and Thomas.

SmashMouth 05-30-2023 12:19 PM
Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 974694)
Amazing how it's changed (roster) since Dennis became HC.

IMO that "I like our WR room" philosophy held us back & advancing while Brees was still under center. Who are you scaring with Callaway, Smith & Lil Jordan & Kirkwood?

Blockzilla (Trequan) has one foot off a cliff & the other on a banana peel in 2023. Slots #4-6 will have to excel on special teams/gunners to make this roster.

I see legitimate competition from these younger guys & I like how DA & staff are addressing needs (DT, WR, QB), in subsequent drafts.
Meanwhile Lil' Jordan is trying to catch on in Denver.

:popcorn:

K Major 05-30-2023 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 974696)
Meanwhile Lil' Jordan is trying to catch on in Denver.

:popcorn:
Good luck.

They better hope Patrick or Jeudy stays healthy in 2023.

Jordan and Callaway don't move the needle as pass catchers.

K Major 05-30-2023 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 974695)
To be fair though, he did spend high round picks on Cooks and Thomas.
In speaking in terms of recency.

Cooks was gone after 2016 & MT hasn't been healthy & contributing for several seasons now.

saintsfan1976 05-30-2023 12:57 PM
Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 974683)
Wide Receiver seems like a deep position for us. Much deeper than prior years.

Michael Thomas
Chris Olave
Rashid Shaheed
Bryan Edwards
James Washington
A.T. Perry
Tre’Quan Smith

That’s good depth. Not to mention Juwan Johnson and Foster Moreau. I don’t have many concerns there.
I'll play devil's advocate

Michael Thomas - obvious concerns, until proven otherwise. Just being fair
Chris Olave - legit #2 receiver and threat for yards
Rashid Shaheed - is he a legit #3? We'll see

These are essentially the same guy. Neither has more than 34 catches in any season.
Bryan Edwards
Tre’Quan Smith

However, will definitely agree having Juwan and Foster provide a ton of value at the TE position - and that both play it differently

SmashMouth 05-30-2023 12:59 PM
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rezburna 05-30-2023 01:04 PM
Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 974700)
I'll play devil's advocate

Michael Thomas - obvious concerns, until proven otherwise. Just being fair
Chris Olave - legit #2 receiver and threat for yards
Rashid Shaheed - is he a legit #3? We'll see

These are essentially the same guy. Neither has more than 34 catches in any season.
Bryan Edwards
Tre’Quan Smith

However, will definitely agree having Juwan and Foster provide a ton of value at the TE position - and that both play it differently
Edwards is going into his 4th year and already has a 500+ yard season. Tre is going into his 6th and hasn’t done that.

Olave is going to put up WR1 numbers. He’s that good.

I believe Shaheed can excel as the #3, but if he can’t we know James Washington is a legit slot.

saintsfan1976 05-30-2023 01:20 PM
Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 974702)
Edwards is going into his 4th year and already has a 500+ yard season. Tre is going into his 6th and hasn’t done that.

Olave is going to put up WR1 numbers. He’s that good.

I believe Shaheed can excel as the #3, but if he can’t we know James Washington is a legit slot.
No argument on Olave. He's a star.

Shaheed is still a wait and see for me. New QB. Won't surprise anyone. Can he replicate or improve on last year??

Edwards is a mystery. Raiders gave him away after that 500 yard season in which the kid played clutch down the stretch. Why? And then why did he flop in Atlanta? I get that team wasn't exactly airing it out but...

I love the James Washington signing IF that foot isn't a problem...

AsylumGuido 05-30-2023 01:50 PM
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