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He had some success with the Steelers a few years back. Competition for Krull and that fourth TE spot behind Johnson, Moreau, and Hill.

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Good depth.

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One of my favorite movies was about him….

It’s got the best shootout scene in film I think…(bloody)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NsMwPI...c2hvb3RvdXQ%3D

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I'll bet there has been quite a few Jesse James in History, all with their very own heights of fame.

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Yes, Jesse James, been waiting for this signing!

https://i.scdn.co/image/d498892d45e5...8a3cd611af07ad

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Blockzilla II.

You win in those trenches. I hope Jesse has something left & can push the younger guys. The injury bug got him last season.

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That's exactly the image I get when I hear Jesse James anymore, neugey.

Or maybe this one.

https://hollywoodlife.com/wp-content...er-embed-1.jpg

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Is it me or is Taysom Hill increasingly becoming the odd man out

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I think he's one of three TE's that have a lock on the position. He's willing and able to contribute to special teams, as well, and can line up at h-back. But, I guess you could say he was the odd man out as a primary passing target.

I wouldn't be surprised if James fails makes the cut.

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As far as Hill goes, it is my understanding he is listed as a TE but really doesn't factor into how many they will keep at the position. I think at this point in Hill's career, he will continue playing some special teams and lining up in the H-Back position doing mostly running. It seems like that nasty concussion he had a couple years ago pretty much ended the TE experiment for him.

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I would think that playing h-back and special teams would be just as, if not more, likely to result in a concussion. I guess we'll see soon how much work he'll be getting at TE. I also believe this year is the first time the Saints official roster listing actually has him listed as a TE rather than a QB coming into the OTA's.

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[QUOTE=saintsfan1976;974757]Is it me or is Taysom Hill increasingly becoming the odd man out[/QUOTE


TH is a Swiss Army knife. He can play many positions. That frees up backup roles for others. He can play qb, rb, fb, te and wr if needed. He’s not tied down to just te.

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[quote=voodooido;974783]I agree that he can play all these positions. But that doesn’t mean he’s a star at any of these positions. His key is is versatility and what he makes the D respond to. But he’s the 4 th best QB, TE, RB, and WR on the team if he’s lined up at the position IMO.

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Krull's been getting some positive press of late... we may be set finally at TE.

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Darnell Washington who? :D ;)

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When do those joint practices start with the Chargers again?

They all look good in shorts ;).

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https://media.tenor.com/Exv8qHQeWYkAAAAC/ha-gay.gif
Not very mature but I'm bored...:chug:

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First off Hill is badass. Second, he’s totally ****in awesome. And lastly, Taysom Hill’s mother is a hot model who had an affair with Chuck Norris. He’s Chuck Norris’ baby!!!

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First off Hill is badass. Second, he’s totally ****in awesome. And lastly, Taysom Hill’s mother is probably a hot model who had an affair with Chuck Norris. He’s Chuck Norris’ baby!!! You heard it here first! He will always have a place on the roster!! Go Taysom!!!!!!

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I've been wondering the same thing. Don't be surprised if he spends most of his time in the running back room since he is already familiar with the TE room.

There is a role for a blocking tight end on the roster. If he's healthy there is a chance he makes the roster. Doesn't Carr like the two tight end sets?


That's funny. In fact, now that you mention it, Chuck Norris favors my twin brother too. ;)

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LMAO :p :bng:

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I know he's a fan fav. But does anyone know what the cap hit/ savings would be if we let Hill go?

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Looks like a lot…

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...om-hill-22021/

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So a dead cap of approximately 23M?

Whoa :bugeyes:

I don't think TH is going anywhere ... but hey, I've been wrong before :bng:.

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More importantly than being a fan favorite, I believe he's also a team favorite. I just can't envision the scenario where the Saints wouldn't want Hill on their roster. He is arguably one of the two or three top athletes on the entire roster. Even if there was no cap hit what would be the added value to the team in letting him go?

:confused:

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Maybe Tay Tay had some pics of Pay Pay with a hooker…lmao!

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It's a roster spot and cap space. Looking at what he brings (at that price tag) should be more than his athleticism. I'm specifically referring to what he contributes game to game as a position player. TE? Not much there... QB? Gadgetry but not much there either. Special Teams? Hell yes, but at that cost?

Just trying to see where he fits other than being a swiss army knife in our pocket, because we're currently stacked at TE and QB.

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Arguably even more so than McCaffery, now with the Whiners.

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He led the team in rushing TD's last season on top of everything else he contributed. In fact, he had more rushing TD's than all other players combined!

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More and more folks are coming around to the idea of Taysom in the running back room. If Taysom isn't in the tight end room then there could be room for a blocking tight end like Jesses James on the roster. If Krull is a good blocker then it could be a good camp battle for the last tight end spot.

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Don't forget Juwan Johnson.

He had the same number of TDs in 2022 as Taysom Hill.

I think we're much improved (depth-wise) @ TE now with DCarr under center.

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Excellent point, Smashy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taysom_Hill
This is a snippet from the Wiki on last year's stats for Taysom. I know for a fact that McCaffery hasn't blocked punts.

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Look at it this way, leilung, Taysom doesn't take up a roster spot. Quite the opposite! He actually opens up multiple spots by being able to play so many different positions. His cap hit is less than $7 million for 2023. That is a bargain for all of the production he can provide in multiple facets of the game.

Hell, if we lost both guards in a game I actually believe Taysom could come in and hold his own against most players lined up on the other side. I certainly wouldn't bet against it.

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Sean Payton introduced Taysom's role when Drew was losing his arm strength as a joker role and his role has grown exponentially since then. Now that we have Carr, good receivers, and a good running back room do we still need to run a system set up on gimmick plays with Taysom? Don't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting that we phase out TH but is Pete Carmichael creative enough to run two different systems that can be integrated? Last season PC only got creative when the media called him out for lack of creativity.

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I seriously doubt Carmichael gives a crap about what the media or fans think. :D

But you are correct in how often he was used over the last seven games of the season. He averaged almost 8.5 touches over that period. Perhaps the rib injuries he suffered in the preseason and again in the 2nd game played a part in his reduced role. Plus the need for him to be available at QB with Winston being out for most of the early part of the season probably came into play, too.

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I stand by what I said. PC got creative at the same time when he was criticized by fans and media alike for the lack of ingenuity in his play calling. He was slow to change his stale play calling and instead he dusted off Payton's playbook. He still didn't introduce anything new later in the season. He just reached deeper into Payton's playbook.

In my opinion, Carmichael is limited to calling plays from Payton's playbook. Nonetheless, that could work very with Derek Carr running that type of offense. Hopefully, we'll see a great game plan every week now that you have faith in your QB executing the game plan.

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I don't doubt that Carmichael got urging to open up his playcalling, but I believe that urging from the top in Dennis Allen and also from his own players would carry infinitely greater weight than fans and/or media. I know enough about coaching mentality to know that fans or media are not going to affect their actual coaching decision making. I believe you yourself have some experience coaching in the sport of rugby. Am I correct? Would you let fan and/or media input drive how you did your job?

An aside here. My father-in-law is a high school coaching legend in basketball. He is in the Louisiana High School Hall of Fame. We had some great talks about coaching philosophy. LOL!

I do also beg to differ on not introducing anything new that we hadn't seen from Payton in the past. Several times over the final few games we saw Alvin Kamara line up and take the snap from the center in the QB position. That was a buzz in our section of the stands when we first saw it. Nobody could recall that ever before. It seemed he couldn't trust Dalton with anything beyond the vanilla. Thank God he's gone!

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I’d like to reserve QB Taysom for plays in the redzone and utilize him more as an H-Back.