Observations from Saint's Loss vs Texans

SmashMouth · 08-27-2023, 10:11 PM

Last preseason game comes to an end.

Tough cuts coming. Too close to call for some.

Haener has moxy, but needs to use more targets than just Krull. Texans weren't playing nice with the blitzes. It was nonetheless a good way to evaluate guys.

It's for real next time fellahs and fellettes !

Boston Saint · 08-27-2023, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Last preseason game comes to an end.

Tough cuts coming. Too close to call for some.

Haener has moxy, but needs to use more targets than just Krull. Texans weren't playing nice with the blitzes. It was nonetheless a good way to evaluate guys.

It's for real next time fellahs and fellettes !

If by “moxy” you mean little future in the league I agree.

cmike · 08-27-2023, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

If by “moxy” you mean little future in the league I agree.

Haener would’ve set the record for INT’s in a game if playing against starters.

AsylumGuido · 08-28-2023, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by cmike

Haener would’ve set the record for INT’s in a game if playing against starters.

Keep in mind he would have also had the starting offensive line protecting him instead of the bottom of the barrel that will be on the streets as early as today.

WW_Who_Dat · 08-28-2023, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Keep in mind he would have also had the starting offensive line protecting him instead of the bottom of the barrel that will be on the streets as early as today.

My take away from Haener’s performance last night, 🤷, that said the level of Oline play was awful.

We left for the hotel not long after the 3rd quarter ended it seemed that the Oline was using the current “Open Borders Policy” for their blocking scheme. Whether it was communication, skill level or full bore pressure defense whatever grouping or combination of our Oline personnel they were not up to the task. it was not a matter if someONE was pressuring the QB but how many. Miller and Merriweather were being met in the backfield or at best the line scrimmage.

Either Houston’s down side of roster players are significantly better than the Saints, possibly but not so much in 2 previous games. Or possibly Houston gave more of their potential 1’s and 2’s more playing time trying to better evaluate their roster’s best 53 thru 60.

Went to see Haener probably last chance till next offseason running an offense. Not ready for prime time but with time the guy moves well, lively arm, stands and take a hit and gets back up. Didn’t see most of the 4th quarter put he was working thru his reads when he had the time.

Side note, when the first quarter ended and teams swap sides, Peat took almost the entire commercial break to walk to the opposite end of the playing field. Look like a man in need of a samich or 2.

Boston Saint · 08-29-2023, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

My take away from Haener’s performance last night, 🤷, that said the level of Oline play was awful.

We left for the hotel not long after the 3rd quarter ended it seemed that the Oline was using the current “Open Borders Policy” for their blocking scheme. Whether it was communication, skill level or full bore pressure defense whatever grouping or combination of our Oline personnel they were not up to the task. it was not a matter if someONE was pressuring the QB but how many. Miller and Merriweather were being met in the backfield or at best the line scrimmage.

Either Houston’s down side of roster players are significantly better than the Saints, possibly but not so much in 2 previous games. Or possibly Houston gave more of their potential 1’s and 2’s more playing time trying to better evaluate their roster’s best 53 thru 60.

Went to see Haener probably last chance till next offseason running an offense. Not ready for prime time but with time the guy moves well, lively arm, stands and take a hit and gets back up. Didn’t see most of the 4th quarter put he was working thru his reads when he had the time.

Side note, when the first quarter ended and teams swap sides, Peat took almost the entire commercial break to walk to the opposite end of the playing field. Look like a man in need of a samich or 2.

Excellent post.

4everSaint · 08-27-2023, 11:04 PM

Miller better figure out how to get **** going ASAP. Averaging 1.8 yard’s basically all of preseason isn’t going to help. Also runs straight in to the would be defender and let’s

mapcow · 08-30-2023, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by 4everSaint

Miller better figure out how to get **** going ASAP. Averaging 1.8 yard’s basically all of preseason isn’t going to help. Also runs straight in to the would be defender and let’s

Luv it

leilung · 08-28-2023, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Last preseason game comes to an end.

Tough cuts coming. Too close to call for some.

Haener has moxy, but needs to use more targets than just Krull. Texans weren't playing nice with the blitzes. It was nonetheless a good way to evaluate guys.

It's for real next time fellahs and fellettes !

He had some tunnel vision BAD in the last 6 minutes. Krull, Krull, and more Krull. Not reading his progressions and trying to hit a home run when their D was giving away other options made zero sense. Their secondary was all over Krull in that last 1:30, but he kept trying to force feed him. Haener's immaturity showed big time. Kinda disappointing, but he's a rookie.

dizzle88 · 08-28-2023, 12:57 AM

Bresee showed nice quickness and 2 awesome spin moves.

Was nice to see him and Foskey collapse the pocket

08-27-2023, 10:11 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Observations from Saint's Loss vs Texans Last preseason game comes to an end. Tough cuts coming. Too close to call for some. Haener has moxy, but needs to use more targets than just Krull. Texans weren't playing nice with the blitzes. It was nonetheless a good way to evaluate guys. It's for real next time fellahs and fellettes ! Rsanders24, Crusader, leilung and 1 others like this.

08-27-2023, 10:14 PM	#2
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from Saint's Loss vs Texans Originally Posted by SmashMouth Last preseason game comes to an end. Tough cuts coming. Too close to call for some. Haener has moxy, but needs to use more targets than just Krull. Texans weren't playing nice with the blitzes. It was nonetheless a good way to evaluate guys. It's for real next time fellahs and fellettes ! If by “moxy” you mean little future in the league I agree. Rsanders24, SmashMouth and cmike like this.

08-27-2023, 10:37 PM	#3
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: Observations from Saint's Loss vs Texans Originally Posted by Boston Saint If by “moxy” you mean little future in the league I agree. Haener would’ve set the record for INT’s in a game if playing against starters. Rsanders24 and K Major like this.

08-28-2023, 07:51 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Observations from Saint's Loss vs Texans Originally Posted by cmike Haener would’ve set the record for INT’s in a game if playing against starters. Keep in mind he would have also had the starting offensive line protecting him instead of the bottom of the barrel that will be on the streets as early as today.

08-28-2023, 12:12 PM	#5
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,275 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from Saint's Loss vs Texans Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Keep in mind he would have also had the starting offensive line protecting him instead of the bottom of the barrel that will be on the streets as early as today. My take away from Haener’s performance last night, 🤷, that said the level of Oline play was awful. We left for the hotel not long after the 3rd quarter ended it seemed that the Oline was using the current “Open Borders Policy” for their blocking scheme. Whether it was communication, skill level or full bore pressure defense whatever grouping or combination of our Oline personnel they were not up to the task. it was not a matter if someONE was pressuring the QB but how many. Miller and Merriweather were being met in the backfield or at best the line scrimmage. Either Houston’s down side of roster players are significantly better than the Saints, possibly but not so much in 2 previous games. Or possibly Houston gave more of their potential 1’s and 2’s more playing time trying to better evaluate their roster’s best 53 thru 60. Went to see Haener probably last chance till next offseason running an offense. Not ready for prime time but with time the guy moves well, lively arm, stands and take a hit and gets back up. Didn’t see most of the 4th quarter put he was working thru his reads when he had the time. Side note, when the first quarter ended and teams swap sides, Peat took almost the entire commercial break to walk to the opposite end of the playing field. Look like a man in need of a samich or 2. Boston Saint likes this.

08-29-2023, 12:24 AM	#6
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from Saint's Loss vs Texans Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat My take away from Haener’s performance last night, 🤷, that said the level of Oline play was awful. We left for the hotel not long after the 3rd quarter ended it seemed that the Oline was using the current “Open Borders Policy” for their blocking scheme. Whether it was communication, skill level or full bore pressure defense whatever grouping or combination of our Oline personnel they were not up to the task. it was not a matter if someONE was pressuring the QB but how many. Miller and Merriweather were being met in the backfield or at best the line scrimmage. Either Houston’s down side of roster players are significantly better than the Saints, possibly but not so much in 2 previous games. Or possibly Houston gave more of their potential 1’s and 2’s more playing time trying to better evaluate their roster’s best 53 thru 60. Went to see Haener probably last chance till next offseason running an offense. Not ready for prime time but with time the guy moves well, lively arm, stands and take a hit and gets back up. Didn’t see most of the 4th quarter put he was working thru his reads when he had the time. Side note, when the first quarter ended and teams swap sides, Peat took almost the entire commercial break to walk to the opposite end of the playing field. Look like a man in need of a samich or 2. Excellent post.

08-27-2023, 11:04 PM	#7
4everSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Madison, MS Posts: 838	Re: Observations from Saint's Loss vs Texans Miller better figure out how to get **** going ASAP. Averaging 1.8 yard’s basically all of preseason isn’t going to help. Also runs straight in to the would be defender and let’s

08-30-2023, 08:03 AM	#8
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: Observations from Saint's Loss vs Texans Originally Posted by 4everSaint Miller better figure out how to get **** going ASAP. Averaging 1.8 yard’s basically all of preseason isn’t going to help. Also runs straight in to the would be defender and let’s Luv it
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08-28-2023, 12:06 AM	#9
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,419	Re: Observations from Saint's Loss vs Texans Originally Posted by SmashMouth Last preseason game comes to an end. Tough cuts coming. Too close to call for some. Haener has moxy, but needs to use more targets than just Krull. Texans weren't playing nice with the blitzes. It was nonetheless a good way to evaluate guys. It's for real next time fellahs and fellettes ! He had some tunnel vision BAD in the last 6 minutes. Krull, Krull, and more Krull. Not reading his progressions and trying to hit a home run when their D was giving away other options made zero sense. Their secondary was all over Krull in that last 1:30, but he kept trying to force feed him. Haener's immaturity showed big time. Kinda disappointing, but he's a rookie. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

08-28-2023, 12:57 AM	#10
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Observations from Saint's Loss vs Texans Bresee showed nice quickness and 2 awesome spin moves. Was nice to see him and Foskey collapse the pocket Rsanders24, leilung, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.