Why Your Team Sucks 2023: New Orleans Saints
 

Your 2022 record: 7-10. Every NFC South team had a chance—many chances, in fact—to edge out Tampa Bay for the division and give Tom Brady the walk-of-shame final season that he deserved. All of them failed, and this is the third one in a row that I've had to preview. God, I hate my life. This division is the ACC of the NFL. All of its games are spiritually called by Mike Patrick and Ed Cunningham. Drew Brees was its most engaging personality for a decade. Shove a radio antennae up my peener and break it in half.

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He seems nice.

Re: Why Your Team Sucks 2023: New Orleans Saints
 

Lots of reasons but mainly coaching.

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That was…pretty negative. Lol

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Well. To be honest, there isn't much to be positive about from this **** show. Dennis Allen has recreated the roster and the coaching staff he had with the Raiders, yet he can't figure out what is going wrong. Here are the best quotes from his pressers this year. "We've got some things to figure out", "just keep doing what you're doing", and the standard answer that "we'll look at the film". Loomis won't fire him this offseason and unfortunately, Dennis Allen will have another year to run this team further in the ground. Carmichael will be gone at the end of the season and then he will be replaced with another Dennis Allen lackey.

It's getting harder and harder to be a Saints fan.:brood:

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It's easy for me to be a Saints fan. It's what I am. My loyalty is not affected by wins or losses at all.

By the way, I just picked up a very cool Saints jacket that I have never seen before at an estate sale! Very excited!

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Here’s the jacket.

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Let me be clear Guido! My loyalty is not affected by wins and losses, but it is affected by how well/poorly the team is run. Right now, the team is being run into the ground and fans aren't happy about it...except for maybe you. Pumping sunshine doesn't fix the Saints problems. Letting the team know that status quo is unacceptable is our best option at this point.

I just don't understand why you don't feel the need to make this Saints team know just how deeply unsatisfied most fans are with this **** show. If we continue to buy gear and go to games then how do we get our message across to an obviously stubborn front office? How do we send a message to the front office that just keep doing what you're doing if we don't hit them in the pocket book?

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Ironically, if we buy gently used gear the Saints won't profit and that will send the same message as not buying gear.

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I'll leave that to others. I refuse to give up something I love like going to games, mismanaged or not, and buying new Saints gear whenever possible. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way given the Black & Gold shop is always packed to the gills with people buying gear. I'm not giving up anything for anyone.

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The Saints are going to profit the same basically regardless of whether any of their gear is sold or not. Merchandise sales are shared equally among ALL 32 teams.

NFL Economics: How Do NFL Teams Make Money?

"The league negotiates national merchandise, licensing, and TV contracts, which make up most of the national revenue. The 32 teams receive equal shares of this money, regardless of individual team performance. The teams generate local income through concession sales, ticket sales, and corporate sponsors."

A percentage of the locally generated revenue is also shared amongst the whole league, as well. This model guarantees the fiscal viability of all teams regardless of performance.

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Best football quote of the week :

The top offenses in the NFL

ALL OF THEM have plenty of
1) Pre & at the snap motion
2) Personnel & formation flexibility
3) Heavy use of play-action

Yet teams think they can run offenses that don't have these elements
and be successful? That's on coaching 100%.

Dan Orlovsky


FYI, the Saints are dead last in play action %, dead last in play action pass yards % and 31st in percentage of plays in motion before/at the snap.

Source ^^ Kat terrell

And Pete Carmichael is on Airline Dr., still gainfully employed as Saints OC.

Re: Why Your Team Sucks 2023: New Orleans Saints
 

I drafted Jayden Daniels on Madden. That’s going well. 🤷🏽*♂️🥲

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Most of our offensive line have no true position and have played 4 different positions in their last 17 games, so thats our positional flexibility. Other teams line up Deebo Samual or Tyreek Hill at halfback, we line up James Hurst or Trevor Penning at Left Tackle or Right Guard. So we do have positional flexibility. Its just like flexibility of where to hide slow clumsy people not where to feature fast agile people. Other offenses are vertical in a downfield sense, our offense is often vertical in terms of Penning falling straight down giving a pass rusher a straight shot at Carr who goes straight down and comes up holding his throwing shoulder. Our offense keeps defenses on their toes because on any given 3rd down and long play we would have 1 eligible receiver go out wide and 4 block, or 3 receivers go out wide to the same spot on the field and 2 block. We have that dynamic flexibility where all our receivers can run the same route, even on the same play. We also have a punter who is better at Rugby, beer pong, and jailhouse tattoo art than punting and 4 starting defensive lineman who could play DT.

Although merchandise revenue may be split, I think it still sends a message to the teams owner when their teams merchandise doesn't sell. Most want to be seen as leaders pulling more than their own weight. It also gives them more power in league circles to be seen as pulling more than their own weight. We can't force DA to be fired but every stat counts, even if the money is split 32 ways the finger only points one way when the owners meet and one team is last in merchandise sales.

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Well, I hope your discontinuing of mega purchases of Saints merchandise tips the needle. I seriously doubt it, however. Once again, those that are so gung-ho about boycotting anything are those that really never used what they are demanding being boycotted. LOL!

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By the way, here's an interesting article which breaks down the annual fan spending on concessions, alcohol, and merchandise for every NFL team.

NFL Fans Who Spend the Most and Least Money on Their Team [2023 Survey]

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This must be based on 2022 or earlier since it came out before the 2023 season started. I think its funny that Bucs fans were spending the most on merchandise (to get Brady jerseys) while Pats fans were spending the least on merchandise (because they already had Brady jerseys). This may not bode well for our rankings once fans figure out Derek Carr is probably not elite and perhaps nobody we have can live up to the nostalgia of the Brees jersey they already own. But we do have better offensive weapons than New England, so maybe people will buy some Shaheed or Olave jerseys.

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While Harbaugh is now and will be the more obvious name going around in coaching circles, I was just thinking we do something a little less obvious which could be a good move ... take our indirect partnership with Ohio State to the next level and hire Ryan Day to replace DA this offseason. Coaching the Buckeyes is pretty close to the NFL and he's had some time now to prove himself. He's got a solid offensive mind and Stroud's success this year has raised his stock with me. Get to it Mickey!

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Maybe if Quido emphatically states the Saints SUCK; the Saints may start winning. C'mon Quido, for the gipper.. yell like hell "The SAINTS SUCK!!!"
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Or maybe if he donates double the price of season tickets and merchandise, they’ll invest his money more productively, and do some more upgrades to the Dome, to enhance his masochistic experience through our next season of mediocrity.