Week Fourteen: Panthers @ Saints

Rugby Saint II · 12-07-2023, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Saints will lose... afterall, we gotta play for draft round pick spot!!

We'll reach for a first round O lineman that needs developing.......rinse and repeat!

AsylumGuido · 12-07-2023, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We'll reach for a first round O lineman that needs developing.......rinse and repeat!

Virtually every offensive lineman coming out needs developing. It's the nature of the beast and why there is such a shortage. That doesn't mean you quit drafting and developing what is clearly the second most important position group in the NFL today.

Rugby Saint II · 12-07-2023, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Virtually every offensive lineman coming out needs developing. It's the nature of the beast and why there is such a shortage. That doesn't mean you quit drafting and developing what is clearly the second most important position group in the NFL today.

True Dat! But maybe we should focus on successful large football programs that put out players who are well trained. No more players from ____________ (insert name here).

AsylumGuido · 12-07-2023, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

True Dat! But maybe we should focus on successful large football programs that put out players who are well trained. No more players from ____________ (insert name here).

Yup. Like Cesar Ruiz from Michigan. Or Ryan Ramczyk from Wisconsin. Or Erik McCoy from Texas A&M.

Rugby Saint II · 12-07-2023, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. Like Cesar Ruiz from Michigan. Or Ryan Ramczyk from Wisconsin. Or Erik McCoy from Texas A&M.

Wasn't Ruiz drafted to play center and McCoy locked the job down in training camp? So, they move him to guard, which isn't ideal since he was an undersized center to begin with. Of course, the Saints do what they do best.....move players to another position they have never played before or since middle school. It happens all the time and seldom works well.

AsylumGuido · 12-07-2023, 04:57 PM

AsylumGuido · 12-07-2023, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Wasn't Ruiz drafted to play center and McCoy locked the job down in training camp? So, they move him to guard, which isn't ideal since he was an undersized center to begin with. Of course, the Saints do what they do best.....move players to another position they have never played before or since middle school. It happens all the time and seldom works well.

That's what some fans thought, for sure. Although, we both know fans don't have a clue what a team has in mind when they draft a player.

Sinner · 12-07-2023, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's what some fans thought, for sure. Although, we both know fans don't have a clue what a team has in mind when they draft a player.

We have a good clue now. Whatever they have in mind is sucking.

dizzle88 · 12-07-2023, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's what some fans thought, for sure. Although, we both know fans don't have a clue what a team has in mind when they draft a player.

Neither do the Saints apparently.

Draft Zach Baun, who broke sack records in college and convert him to a below average linebacker.

Then struggle to get pressure so they let him rush the passer and he immediately gets a sack against one of the leagues best O lineman.

Complete ineptitude from Saints management as usual.

Sinner · 12-07-2023, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Virtually every offensive lineman coming out needs developing. It's the nature of the beast and why there is such a shortage. That doesn't mean you quit drafting and developing what is clearly the second most important position group in the NFL today.

It’s like Dennis Allen, who needs maybe three or four more sucky seasons to develop as a wanna be Head Coach, or Derek Carr, who needs a few more post-raiders years to show us why the Raiders sat his a$$ down. Or Mickey Loomis, who needs a few more seasons to prove to himself that we do NOT “have all the right people in the building”, OR good old Gayle, who promises to do nothing besides inspire you to believe that the black and gold merch you keep buying represents the colors of dog sh*t and diarrhea.

I’m beginning to see your point.

12-07-2023, 03:30 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Week Fourteen: Panthers @ Saints Originally Posted by mapcow Saints will lose... afterall, we gotta play for draft round pick spot!! We'll reach for a first round O lineman that needs developing.......rinse and repeat!

12-07-2023, 03:33 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Week Fourteen: Panthers @ Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We'll reach for a first round O lineman that needs developing.......rinse and repeat! Virtually every offensive lineman coming out needs developing. It's the nature of the beast and why there is such a shortage. That doesn't mean you quit drafting and developing what is clearly the second most important position group in the NFL today. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Week Fourteen: Panthers @ Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Virtually every offensive lineman coming out needs developing. It's the nature of the beast and why there is such a shortage. That doesn't mean you quit drafting and developing what is clearly the second most important position group in the NFL today. True Dat! But maybe we should focus on successful large football programs that put out players who are well trained. No more players from ____________ (insert name here). AsylumGuido and Sinner like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Week Fourteen: Panthers @ Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II True Dat! But maybe we should focus on successful large football programs that put out players who are well trained. No more players from ____________ (insert name here). Yup. Like Cesar Ruiz from Michigan. Or Ryan Ramczyk from Wisconsin. Or Erik McCoy from Texas A&M.

12-07-2023, 03:57 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Week Fourteen: Panthers @ Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. Like Cesar Ruiz from Michigan. Or Ryan Ramczyk from Wisconsin. Or Erik McCoy from Texas A&M. Wasn't Ruiz drafted to play center and McCoy locked the job down in training camp? So, they move him to guard, which isn't ideal since he was an undersized center to begin with. Of course, the Saints do what they do best.....move players to another position they have never played before or since middle school. It happens all the time and seldom works well.

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12-07-2023, 05:04 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Week Fourteen: Panthers @ Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Wasn't Ruiz drafted to play center and McCoy locked the job down in training camp? So, they move him to guard, which isn't ideal since he was an undersized center to begin with. Of course, the Saints do what they do best.....move players to another position they have never played before or since middle school. It happens all the time and seldom works well. That's what some fans thought, for sure. Although, we both know fans don't have a clue what a team has in mind when they draft a player.

12-07-2023, 05:08 PM	#8
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Week Fourteen: Panthers @ Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's what some fans thought, for sure. Although, we both know fans don't have a clue what a team has in mind when they draft a player. We have a good clue now. Whatever they have in mind is sucking.
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12-07-2023, 05:17 PM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Week Fourteen: Panthers @ Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's what some fans thought, for sure. Although, we both know fans don't have a clue what a team has in mind when they draft a player. Neither do the Saints apparently. Draft Zach Baun, who broke sack records in college and convert him to a below average linebacker. Then struggle to get pressure so they let him rush the passer and he immediately gets a sack against one of the leagues best O lineman. Complete ineptitude from Saints management as usual. Sinner and K Major like this.

12-07-2023, 03:40 PM	#10
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Week Fourteen: Panthers @ Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Virtually every offensive lineman coming out needs developing. It's the nature of the beast and why there is such a shortage. That doesn't mean you quit drafting and developing what is clearly the second most important position group in the NFL today. It’s like Dennis Allen, who needs maybe three or four more sucky seasons to develop as a wanna be Head Coach, or Derek Carr, who needs a few more post-raiders years to show us why the Raiders sat his a$$ down. Or Mickey Loomis, who needs a few more seasons to prove to himself that we do NOT “have all the right people in the building”, OR good old Gayle, who promises to do nothing besides inspire you to believe that the black and gold merch you keep buying represents the colors of dog sh*t and diarrhea. I’m beginning to see your point.
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