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jnormand 02-14-2024 07:49 AM
Re: Off-season plan
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 993094)
This now feels like at least a 3 season project.
The “Win Now” philosophy has caught up to the Saints. They need to start to shed some dead weight, regardless of the sacrifice they have to make. It would be ugly to watch but at least you can start from scratch. You can’t keep putting the same ingredients in and expect a better outcome.

Something has to give. And if the Saints still feel like they can field a contender with basically the same roster and a horrible cap, it’s gonna make the season even more underwhelming.

saintsfan1976 02-14-2024 10:28 AM
Re: Off-season plan
 
Oh come on guys. It's a cutting edge accounting practice that more and more teams emulate today... Loomis is a genius. It'll never be a problem so stop worrying.

Danno 02-14-2024 10:29 AM
Re: Off-season plan
 
In my opinion, 70% of our problems will be fixed if we address the O-line.
30% going to the pass rush.

Its a 1 off-season fix, not a 3 year plan.

Just my .02

leilung 02-14-2024 10:35 AM
Re: Off-season plan
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 993095)
Ranking Comment
“There are bigger problems here than the Saints' finances. Yes, as per usual, they are over the cap to a shocking degree. But more importantly, this just wasn't that good a team last year, and there aren't a ton of avenues toward improvement. The core of their roster — Derek Carr, Alvin Kamara, Cameron Jordan, Demario Davis, Tyrann Mathieu — is ancient by NFL standards. Star right tackle Ryan Ramczyk may need to retire for medical reasons. The vibes here just don't seem great.”

This right here ^^.

Saints are OLD & have a ton of work to do this off season.
I believe that we have one of the oldest rosters in the league right now.
:biggun:

Sinner 02-14-2024 10:45 AM
Re: Off-season plan
 
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 993118)
I believe that we have one of the oldest rosters in the league right now.
:biggun:
Old and out of touch ownership and front office = old roster and irrelevant upgrades.

K Major 02-14-2024 10:47 AM
Re: Off-season plan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by leilung (Post 993118)
I believe that we have one of the oldest rosters in the league right now.
:biggun:
Yep and the oldest are our best players.

It's time to get younger (see Lions, GB, Cowboys).

AsylumGuido 02-14-2024 11:44 AM
Re: Off-season plan
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 993115)
In my opinion, 70% of our problems will be fixed if we address the O-line.
30% going to the pass rush.

Its a 1 off-season fix, not a 3 year plan.

Just my .02
Agree completely on all points, Danno. We have weapons on offense at all the skill positions and that includes Carr. We have playmakers on the defense and need to plug a hole here or there.

AsylumGuido 02-14-2024 11:57 AM
Re: Off-season plan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by leilung (Post 993118)
I believe that we have one of the oldest rosters in the league right now.
:biggun:
But those listed "old" players are still better than most players far younger. There is not a direct correlation between age and value. Demario Davis, for example, is one of the top LB's in the league today even at his supposed advanced age. The same can be said for players like Mathieu and Kamara. While Cam Jordan may seem like he has lost a step he's still drawing double teams as often as players ten years younger. Our problem isn't our older players, it's those younger players that can't stay on the field due to injury.

saintsfan1976 02-14-2024 12:41 PM
Re: Off-season plan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 993115)
In my opinion, 70% of our problems will be fixed if we address the O-line.
30% going to the pass rush.

Its a 1 off-season fix, not a 3 year plan.

Just my .02
Define "address".

Sinner 02-14-2024 12:55 PM
Re: Off-season plan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 993130)
But those listed "old" players are still better than most players far younger. There is not a direct correlation between age and value. Demario Davis, for example, is one of the top LB's in the league today even at his supposed advanced age. The same can be said for players like Mathieu and Kamara. While Cam Jordan may seem like he has lost a step he's still drawing double teams as often as players ten years younger. Our problem isn't our older players, it's those younger players that can't stay on the field due to injury.
Brother, you need to put the crack pipe down and realize that we didn’t even win our weak @ss division this year. Pipe Dreams and Excuses don’t equate to WINS.


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