stickman

Saints 19th of 32. Down from 10th last year.

https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards-2024

Saints were only bad in two areas, how they treat players families and food.

K Major

Interesting.

Poor grades on treatment of family and food (does not offer 3 meals a day)/cafe.

Better hope a prospective Free Agent doesn’t see this 🤫.

Gotta do better with those families though.

AsylumGuido

Sounds like this is kind of misrepresentative based upon Cam's post. If you only have a handful from a team respond to the survey it can be awful skewed.

SmashMouth

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2024...ill-belichick/

Is this factored in?

AsylumGuido

They think he's another Belichick.

K Major

LMAO!

Dennis Allen is one of the worst HC in football.

24-46 speaks for itself. Wins/losses is all that matters (well to 99.9 % of us).

BakoSaint

At 20th of 32 teams we are pretty close to average in 'treatment of families' even though it is a D+. I can see how treatment of families is complicated. Teams don't want wives and girlfriends showing up at the facility and creating distractions or becoming divas at the games demanding special attention. Many players have lots of children, and most jobs don't want a lot of chidren at work or employees missing lots of work due to sick kids etc. Often the players have children with exes too, which gets more complicated and difficult to handle. Also, I am sure every players boomer dads who raised an NFL son think they should be giving the coaches lots of advice the coaches don't want. So treatment of families is what it is. And with the oldest roster in the league, our players likely have more kids, more wives, and more exes than average, though probably less parents.

I would worry more about the cafeteria (30th) and head coach (29th). There are a million chefs in New Orleans running 4.5 star yelp restaurants selling $15 plates because they are not currently one of the hottest 20 restaurants in town, and meanwhile we probably have the dome concessions people running the cafeteria. Time to upgrade.

Meanwhile the head coach is who he is. A very good scheme guy who can't lead. He excelled as an assistant and sold Loomis on his smarts, but it takes more than smarts to succeed as a head coach.

Our assistants were ranked higher than our head coach by the players, yet we cycle through them like nobodies business. Again because the head coach can't lead and they take the fall.

AsylumGuido

Um. You're a bit late on that one. That's the reason why training camp is being held Irvine this year. They are completely redoing the cafeteria. I'll bet they use a new vendor when they ramp it back up after the offseason.

AsylumGuido

You've got to take these "grades" with a grain of salt. It only takes one disgruntled player to swing a grade and this survey was available to every player that was on the roster between August 26, 2023 and November 16, 2023 including players that had been released and/or traded anytime during those dates.

While Dennis Allen was tied for 26th (not 29th as has been stated) he still had a B- which is not a terrible grade. There was a C+, a C, and a D out there, as well.

BakoSaint

To know how important these grades are overall, the Saints ranked 19th of 32 teams overall, but ranked 29th at head coach.

The Chiefs ranked 31st of 32 teams overall including D+ also in treatment of families, F in Nutritionist, F in locker room, F in training staff, and F- ownership, but ranked A+ / 1st in Head Coach.

So, maybe the Head Coach matters more than everything else combined.