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AsylumGuido 03-26-2024 08:54 AM

New Kickoff Rule Impact on Saints
 
I'm looking forward to this new rule. We should see more runbacks and creative ones, as well, from what I am hearing. It will also affect how we build our special teams this off-season. Less emphasis on gunner types and more on the big guys.


AsylumGuido 03-26-2024 08:55 AM

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AsylumGuido 03-26-2024 08:57 AM

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Our own special teams coordinator, Darren Rizzi, helped design this new rule so we should have a bit of a head start on most other franchises, I would imagine.


AsylumGuido 03-26-2024 09:00 AM

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Note the use of two returners. I'm hearing that this will result in more returning involving reverses, laterals, etcetera. Much more excitement, but that isn't hard to do given what we have been seeing in recent years.


AsylumGuido 03-26-2024 09:04 AM

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJmVgKFX...jpg&name=large

AsylumGuido 03-26-2024 04:57 PM

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Can't wait to see the full impact of the new kickoff rule, but that won't be until the first game of the regular season. Nobody'd giving anything away until it really counts.

:D


BakoSaint 03-26-2024 05:51 PM

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Any play that allows the football to be advanced without two offensive tackles on the field is to the Saints advantage this year.

AsylumGuido 03-26-2024 06:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 994878)
Any play that allows the football to be advanced without two offensive tackles on the field is to the Saints advantage this year.

And any play that allows Bako to not ***** about the Saints in an overly negative manner is a positive! Thank God for rule changes.

:D

Who Dat!!

:bng:

mjf150 03-28-2024 07:49 AM

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Even though our ST coordinator had a hand in this, I still find it a little irritating that the NFL eliminated the surprise onside kick, which was the key to Saints one and only Super Bowl. If we didn’t have the element of surprise on our side, we (probably) don’t win that game. It was the turning point in SB XLIV.

AsylumGuido 03-28-2024 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mjf150 (Post 994909)
Even though our ST coordinator had a hand in this, I still find it a little irritating that the NFL eliminated the surprise onside kick, which was the key to Saints one and only Super Bowl. If we didn’t have the element of surprise on our side, we (probably) don’t win that game. It was the turning point in SB XLIV.

I think we need to balance the gain against the loss. I heard there were only three "surprise" onside kicks last season, while with over 4,000 kickoffs less than 20% had a return. Yes, the new rule eliminates the "surprise" onside, but the team can still attempt one using the old configuration by informing the refs. What is gained is that the fair catch is eliminated and with the marking of the ball at the 30 on a kick into or through the end zone, returns will become the norm as opposed to the rare exception that they had become.

saintsfan1976 03-28-2024 10:45 AM

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I like this new rule!

AsylumGuido 03-28-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 994914)
I like this new rule!

Me too! I can see us using Kamara in this role as returner. It will definitely make the kickoff a watchable play again instead of a downed ball 80% plus of the time.

BakoSaint 03-28-2024 10:34 PM

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I wonder what kind of position players or special teamers will typically be used on this new kickoff play. Since the offense and defense line up directly against each other instead of far apart, I wonder if teams will use starting offensive and defensive linemen like they might on a field goal attempt. It seems like lining up closer together, you might see more size and less speed on the field, with players pushing to open and close holes not covering space, and the returner looking to hit the hole more than having to navigate a maze of speedy tacklers.

saintsfan1976 03-29-2024 09:46 AM

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Think Rugby players, maybe? Linebackers and safeties in the middle, WRs and RBs on the edges?

hitta 03-29-2024 01:46 PM

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The surprise onside kick being gone is unfortunate, but this rule change is for the better. This will bring dynamic returning back to the league.

leilung 03-29-2024 08:15 PM

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NFL Network does a good job of breaking it down.

https://sports.yahoo.com/full-breakd...02126668.html?

AsylumGuido 03-31-2024 08:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 994931)
I wonder what kind of position players or special teamers will typically be used on this new kickoff play. Since the offense and defense line up directly against each other instead of far apart, I wonder if teams will use starting offensive and defensive linemen like they might on a field goal attempt. It seems like lining up closer together, you might see more size and less speed on the field, with players pushing to open and close holes not covering space, and the returner looking to hit the hole more than having to navigate a maze of speedy tacklers.

Exactly. Maybe not big uglies, but LB's, TE's, DE's, and safeties like Rugs mentioned.

SmashMouth 04-01-2024 12:23 PM

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Rugby Saint II 04-14-2024 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 994910)
I think we need to balance the gain against the loss. I heard there were only three "surprise" onside kicks last season, while with over 4,000 kickoffs less than 20% had a return. Yes, the new rule eliminates the "surprise" onside, but the team can still attempt one using the old configuration by informing the refs. What is gained is that the fair catch is eliminated and with the marking of the ball at the 30 on a kick into or through the end zone, returns will become the norm as opposed to the rare exception that they had become.

Got it. Thanks.


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