How Ireland's Charlie Smyth turned his NFL dream into a reality with the Saints

AsylumGuido · 04-03-2024, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Or we could stop trying to find these one in a million feel good stories and find someone who can actually kick.

You mean like the feel good story of that place kicker that we imported from Denmark? I believe his name was Morten Andersen.

Or that feel good story of the kicker born with no fingers on his right hand or toes on his right foot? I believe his name was Tom Dempsey.

AsylumGuido · 04-03-2024, 08:54 AM

I like the fact we're using the International Player Portal to bring in competition for Grupe. Smyth won't count against the roster numbers and we can keep him on the practice squad, if need be, as a non-counting number during the regular season, as well. It's definitely a no lose proposition.

The Dude · 04-07-2024, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You mean like the feel good story of that place kicker that we imported from Denmark? I believe his name was Morten Andersen.

Or that feel good story of the kicker born with no fingers on his right hand or toes on his right foot? I believe his name was Tom Dempsey.

Well if we keep trying for the next 20-30 years we might hit gold! What a brilliant strategy! Knowing we only have to wait a few decades will take the sting away every time we lose a meaningful game because our kicker misses a chip shot kick.

AsylumGuido · 04-08-2024, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Well if we keep trying for the next 20-30 years we might hit gold! What a brilliant strategy! Knowing we only have to wait a few decades will take the sting away every time we lose a meaningful game because our kicker misses a chip shot kick.

What are you even talking about? Overall our "strategy" for acquiring kickers is not much different than any other team in the league. We've had plenty of good ones over the past 20-30 years. The great Morten Andersen was hitting at lessor average than the kicker we have now when he first started his career. He didn't even better a 75% success rate until his 4th season! Guess we should have kicked him to the curb and called him a bust after those first three seasons, huh?

vpheughan · 04-08-2024, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

What are you even talking about? Overall our "strategy" for acquiring kickers is not much different than any other team in the league. We've had plenty of good ones over the past 20-30 years. The great Morten Andersen was hitting at lessor average than the kicker we have now when he first started his career. He didn't even better a 75% success rate until his 4th season! Guess we should have kicked him to the curb and called him a bust after those first three seasons, huh?

Wil Lutz 85% (Replaced Kai Forbath)
Garrett Hartley 83.4% (Held record for most consecutive made kicks by a first year kicker. Broken by then Redskin Kai Forbath who replaced former Saints kickoff specialist Billy Cundiff.)
John Carney 82.8%
Doug Brien 82.6%
Blake Grupe 81.1% (Replaced Wil Lutz)
Morten Andersen 77.6% ***

***Proof that "Stats Don't Matter"

Rugby Saint II · 04-17-2024, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Wil Lutz 85% (Replaced Kai Forbath)
Garrett Hartley 83.4% (Held record for most consecutive made kicks by a first year kicker. Broken by then Redskin Kai Forbath who replaced former Saints kickoff specialist Billy Cundiff.)
John Carney 82.8%
Doug Brien 82.6%
Blake Grupe 81.1% (Replaced Wil Lutz)
Morten Andersen 77.6% ***

***Proof that "Stats Don't Matter"

My twin brother is a big fan of the old saying "statistics can say anything you want them to."

04-03-2024, 08:26 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: How Ireland's Charlie Smyth turned his NFL dream into a reality with the Saints Originally Posted by The Dude Or we could stop trying to find these one in a million feel good stories and find someone who can actually kick. You mean like the feel good story of that place kicker that we imported from Denmark? I believe his name was Morten Andersen. Or that feel good story of the kicker born with no fingers on his right hand or toes on his right foot? I believe his name was Tom Dempsey. SaintFanQ, SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

04-03-2024, 08:54 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: How Ireland's Charlie Smyth turned his NFL dream into a reality with the Saints I like the fact we're using the International Player Portal to bring in competition for Grupe. Smyth won't count against the roster numbers and we can keep him on the practice squad, if need be, as a non-counting number during the regular season, as well. It's definitely a no lose proposition.

04-07-2024, 07:26 PM	#3
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: How Ireland's Charlie Smyth turned his NFL dream into a reality with the Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You mean like the feel good story of that place kicker that we imported from Denmark? I believe his name was Morten Andersen. Or that feel good story of the kicker born with no fingers on his right hand or toes on his right foot? I believe his name was Tom Dempsey. Well if we keep trying for the next 20-30 years we might hit gold! What a brilliant strategy! Knowing we only have to wait a few decades will take the sting away every time we lose a meaningful game because our kicker misses a chip shot kick.
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04-08-2024, 08:33 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: How Ireland's Charlie Smyth turned his NFL dream into a reality with the Saints Originally Posted by The Dude Well if we keep trying for the next 20-30 years we might hit gold! What a brilliant strategy! Knowing we only have to wait a few decades will take the sting away every time we lose a meaningful game because our kicker misses a chip shot kick. What are you even talking about? Overall our "strategy" for acquiring kickers is not much different than any other team in the league. We've had plenty of good ones over the past 20-30 years. The great Morten Andersen was hitting at lessor average than the kicker we have now when he first started his career. He didn't even better a 75% success rate until his 4th season! Guess we should have kicked him to the curb and called him a bust after those first three seasons, huh? Rugby Saint II likes this.

04-08-2024, 09:27 PM	#5
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,543	Re: How Ireland's Charlie Smyth turned his NFL dream into a reality with the Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido What are you even talking about? Overall our "strategy" for acquiring kickers is not much different than any other team in the league. We've had plenty of good ones over the past 20-30 years. The great Morten Andersen was hitting at lessor average than the kicker we have now when he first started his career. He didn't even better a 75% success rate until his 4th season! Guess we should have kicked him to the curb and called him a bust after those first three seasons, huh? Wil Lutz 85% (Replaced Kai Forbath) Garrett Hartley 83.4% (Held record for most consecutive made kicks by a first year kicker. Broken by then Redskin Kai Forbath who replaced former Saints kickoff specialist Billy Cundiff.) John Carney 82.8% Doug Brien 82.6% Blake Grupe 81.1% (Replaced Wil Lutz) Morten Andersen 77.6% * Proof that "Stats Don't Matter"* Rugby Saint II likes this.
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04-17-2024, 01:11 PM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: How Ireland's Charlie Smyth turned his NFL dream into a reality with the Saints Originally Posted by vpheughan Wil Lutz 85% (Replaced Kai Forbath) Garrett Hartley 83.4% (Held record for most consecutive made kicks by a first year kicker. Broken by then Redskin Kai Forbath who replaced former Saints kickoff specialist Billy Cundiff.) John Carney 82.8% Doug Brien 82.6% Blake Grupe 81.1% (Replaced Wil Lutz) Morten Andersen 77.6% * Proof that "Stats Don't Matter"* My twin brother is a big fan of the old saying "statistics can say anything you want them to."