Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5

mapcow · 05-24-2024, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Errr... the contractors are derelict with their paperwork and processes. If your contractor were behind on your home build and was comingling funds with other projects, would you blindly pay the man?

11.5 million is a huge amount... and of course, you believe the contractor argument, and have first hand knowledge. can you present the paper work?

SmashMouth · 05-24-2024, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

11.5 million is a huge amount... and of course, you believe the contractor argument, and have first hand knowledge. can you present the paper work?

To you and I , the amount is huge. However, as a matter of procedure the amount is immaterial. I've GC'd my own projects, and had GCs manage others. I have the perspective of both sides, and the experience of having had the displeasure of dealing with real estate liens from BS contractors. It's not up to you and I to come up with their paperwork. It's the media's job to actually do homework rather than mercilessly smear for some alternate God knows what reason. We're just spectators at the end of the day.

Sinner · 05-24-2024, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

To you and I , the amount is huge. However, as a matter of procedure the amount is immaterial. I've GC'd my own projects, and had GCs manage others. I have the perspective of both sides, and the experience of having had the displeasure of dealing with real estate liens from BS contractors. It's not up to you and I to come up with their paperwork. It's the media's job to actually do homework rather than mercilessly smear for some alternate God knows what reason. We're just spectators at the end of the day.

I think we can all agree that as spectators (Fans), we are overdue for a championship caliber quality product.

mapcow · 05-25-2024, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

To you and I , the amount is huge. However, as a matter of procedure the amount is immaterial. I've GC'd my own projects, and had GCs manage others. I have the perspective of both sides, and the experience of having had the displeasure of dealing with real estate liens from BS contractors. It's not up to you and I to come up with their paperwork. It's the media's job to actually do homework rather than mercilessly smear for some alternate God knows what reason. We're just spectators at the end of the day.

BS Contractors.... ok, then shame on the Saints Organization for not knowing the better contractor .... again if true, piss poor on their part.

SmashMouth · 05-26-2024, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by mapcow

BS Contractors.... ok, then shame on the Saints Organization for not knowing the better contractor .... again if true, piss poor on their part.

That's actually a good question. Who got to pick said contractor? Saints, Superdome, State?

Boston Saint · 05-26-2024, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

That's actually a good question. Who got to pick said contractor? Saints, Superdome, State?

I was wondering that myself Smash. Since the Saints have no ownership stake in the SD (None that I am aware of anyway), it would likely be that the bidding process and contractor choice would NOT be part of the Saint’s role in the process. That’s just my guess though. But if you rent a house that needs work you don’t choose the contractor….the owner does.

AsylumGuido · 05-26-2024, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I was wondering that myself Smash. Since the Saints have no ownership stake in the SD (None that I am aware of anyway), it would likely be that the bidding process and contractor choice would NOT be part of the Saint’s role in the process. That’s just my guess though. But if you rent a house that needs work you don’t choose the contractor….the owner does.

Exactly!

Sinner · 05-26-2024, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Exactly!

“Exactly” confirms that the “Owner” chooses to continue to profit from BS. Why fans applaud this and adore her, I’ll never figure out.

AsylumGuido · 05-26-2024, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

That's actually a good question. Who got to pick said contractor? Saints, Superdome, State?

"Louisiana Stadium & Exposition District is a political subdivision created under Louisiana law. The board's primary purpose is to plan, finance, construct, develop, maintain and operate facilities located within the District for events of public interest."

The State via the LSED selected the contractor. This was all on the LSED and, in turn, the State. As much as someone wants to blame the Saints for anything, all they did was withhold one payment until they got an explanation for the contracted work being done. That payment was in part related to an overage to the initial estimate. I read and heard that there was also a question about the LSED possibly "co-mingling" funds with other separate projects. Very bad, if indeed true.

The team also appears to have taken advantage of the situation to use that leverage in the new lease negotiations which will extend through the 2035 season.

This now addressed issue was all on the LSED and not on the Saints, to the chagrin of some. But, then again, haters will always find an excuse to hate.

05-24-2024, 03:16 PM	#1
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by SmashMouth Errr... the contractors are derelict with their paperwork and processes. If your contractor were behind on your home build and was comingling funds with other projects, would you blindly pay the man? 11.5 million is a huge amount... and of course, you believe the contractor argument, and have first hand knowledge. can you present the paper work?
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05-24-2024, 07:28 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,019 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by mapcow 11.5 million is a huge amount... and of course, you believe the contractor argument, and have first hand knowledge. can you present the paper work? To you and I , the amount is huge. However, as a matter of procedure the amount is immaterial. I've GC'd my own projects, and had GCs manage others. I have the perspective of both sides, and the experience of having had the displeasure of dealing with real estate liens from BS contractors. It's not up to you and I to come up with their paperwork. It's the media's job to actually do homework rather than mercilessly smear for some alternate God knows what reason. We're just spectators at the end of the day. AsylumGuido and Boston Saint like this.

05-24-2024, 07:47 PM	#3
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by SmashMouth To you and I , the amount is huge. However, as a matter of procedure the amount is immaterial. I've GC'd my own projects, and had GCs manage others. I have the perspective of both sides, and the experience of having had the displeasure of dealing with real estate liens from BS contractors. It's not up to you and I to come up with their paperwork. It's the media's job to actually do homework rather than mercilessly smear for some alternate God knows what reason. We're just spectators at the end of the day. I think we can all agree that as spectators (Fans), we are overdue for a championship caliber quality product. SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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05-25-2024, 07:29 AM	#4
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by SmashMouth To you and I , the amount is huge. However, as a matter of procedure the amount is immaterial. I've GC'd my own projects, and had GCs manage others. I have the perspective of both sides, and the experience of having had the displeasure of dealing with real estate liens from BS contractors. It's not up to you and I to come up with their paperwork. It's the media's job to actually do homework rather than mercilessly smear for some alternate God knows what reason. We're just spectators at the end of the day. BS Contractors.... ok, then shame on the Saints Organization for not knowing the better contractor .... again if true, piss poor on their part. Sinner likes this.
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05-26-2024, 07:48 AM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,019 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by mapcow BS Contractors.... ok, then shame on the Saints Organization for not knowing the better contractor .... again if true, piss poor on their part. That's actually a good question. Who got to pick said contractor? Saints, Superdome, State? Sinner likes this.

05-26-2024, 07:53 AM	#6
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by SmashMouth That's actually a good question. Who got to pick said contractor? Saints, Superdome, State? I was wondering that myself Smash. Since the Saints have no ownership stake in the SD (None that I am aware of anyway), it would likely be that the bidding process and contractor choice would NOT be part of the Saint’s role in the process. That’s just my guess though. But if you rent a house that needs work you don’t choose the contractor….the owner does. Danno and AsylumGuido like this.

05-26-2024, 08:59 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by Boston Saint I was wondering that myself Smash. Since the Saints have no ownership stake in the SD (None that I am aware of anyway), it would likely be that the bidding process and contractor choice would NOT be part of the Saint’s role in the process. That’s just my guess though. But if you rent a house that needs work you don’t choose the contractor….the owner does. Exactly!

05-26-2024, 09:04 AM	#8
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Exactly! “Exactly” confirms that the “Owner” chooses to continue to profit from BS. Why fans applaud this and adore her, I’ll never figure out.
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