Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 997122) I have a hint of optimism just like any other year. I’m hoping to be pleasantly surprised. Maybe the new system is what the offensive line needed to flourish in their skill sets. We’ll find out soon enough.

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 997155) Same fluff propaganda every year. Every year we are just bad enough to earn a mid round pick.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 997171) I will admit that it's harder to find enthusiasm after watching that **** show the last couple of years. But Klint Kubiak has me hoping that the team has found a new leader and direction to go. The entire Denver staff was fired and they cleaned house after his first stint as OC but it shouldn't define him. In fact, If DA misses the playoffs again then Kubiak might get his shot at coaching the Saints.....Hey, I can dream can't I. :p

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 997171) I will admit that it's harder to find enthusiasm after watching that **** show the last couple of years. But Klint Kubiak has me hoping that the team has found a new leader and direction to go. The entire Denver staff was fired and they cleaned house after his first stint as OC but it shouldn't define him. In fact, If DA misses the playoffs again then Kubiak might get his shot at coaching the Saints.....Hey, I can dream can't I. :p

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997173) I seriously doubt any real fan, Rugs, would want us to miss the playoffs for any reason. When we do make the playoffs this year it'll just go to show everyone how little the flunkies of Bako know. But, haters gonna hate. Ignorance is always bliss. :bng: Oh, and that **** show was flushed along with Pete Carmichael.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997173) I seriously doubt any real fan, Rugs, would want us to miss the playoffs for any reason. When we do make the playoffs this year it'll just go to show everyone how little the flunkies of Bako know. But, haters gonna hate. Ignorance is always bliss. :bng: Oh, and that **** show was flushed along with Pete Carmichael.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 997204) You're right. I don't want to have a bad season but if we do DA can go call defense somewhere else next year. I want to win. Badly. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here unless I'm trolling.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997205) Is there a chance that Dennis Allen isn't as horrible as the haters claim? He does have the 3rd best winning percentage of any full time head coach in Saints history. Believe it or not, Allen is also the 5th winningest coach in Saints history after only two years.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997205) Is there a chance that Dennis Allen isn't as horrible as the haters claim? He does have the 3rd best winning percentage of any full time head coach in Saints history. Believe it or not, Allen is also the 5th winningest coach in Saints history after only two years.

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 997207) I'm willing to see what the team Offense looks like, post-PC. Being #3 in win % is a deceptive stat tho... especially when you look a bit deeper and you see the list he beats out has some pretty infamous names on it AG. Other sub .500 notables: Ditka, both Bum and Wade Philips, Haslett, Nolan, and Fears. Mora and SP are the only coaches out of the 17 who had winning records. Even he Saints HC measuring stick, that bar is pretty low. DA may have wins, but he's still a HC with a losing record in charge of the Saints (17-18 after 2 years) Like I said in another thread... I'm acting like I'm from Missouri this season. SHOW ME! :bng:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 997207) I'm willing to see what the team Offense looks like, post-PC. Being #3 in win % is a deceptive stat tho... especially when you look a bit deeper and you see the list he beats out has some pretty infamous names on it AG. Other sub .500 notables: Ditka, both Bum and Wade Philips, Haslett, Nolan, and Fears. Mora and SP are the only coaches out of the 17 who had winning records. Even he Saints HC measuring stick, that bar is pretty low. DA may have wins, but he's still a HC with a losing record in charge of the Saints (17-18 after 2 years) Like I said in another thread... I'm acting like I'm from Missouri this season. SHOW ME! :bng:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997209) Let's not forget that the great Sean Payton went 21-27 over a three year stretch in 2014-2016. That's a worse losing record with the Saints than Allen has experienced. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Allen is anything special, but there's no indication he is as bad as some imply. That Raiders team that he was saddled with was one of the most dysfunctional in NFL history.

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 997210) You’re “not saying that Allen is anything special”. Yet, he is the Saints HEAD COACH, which basically says it all. I’m sorry brother. A HEAD COACH needs to be something speciall.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 997213) True Dat! But in the meantime maybe KK will be the kind of influence that left with Payton.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 997217) Barry Switzer won a SB and he was a crappy head coach.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 997217) Barry Switzer won a SB and he was a crappy head coach.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997221) Yup. On the other hand, Dan Reeves, Bud Grant, Marv Levi, Marty Schottenheimer, Don Coryell, and Chuck Knox are among the outstanding coaches who never won a Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 997219) Y’all have to admit that we are in a precarious position as fans, when we accept a HEAD COACH who lacks the fire that a HEAD COACH is supposed to bring. We are stuck between wanting to have a decent enough season (maybe thanks to K.K.) to keep an unspectacular HEAD COACH around for yet another painful year… or being okay with performing so poorly, that we let this dud go, and begin yet another “rebuild” phase for how many more years? Meanwhile, other organizations are building CHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL TEAMS as we speak…

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 997341) He makes sense. If we start implementing more of the pre-snap motions with Shaheed it should enable him to get open a lot more. With his speed it should help to create more movement and shifting on D too which should open things up for the other passcatchers too.

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The Saints were 26th (14.3%) in the league in pre-snap motion. I believe coming into the final five weeks they were last or very close to it. Carmichael finally got his head out of his ass and started running them a lot more frequently down the stretch moving them up in the list. I wouldn't doubt that Dennis Allen had a "come to Jesus" meeting with him to prompt the change.

Note that the top three, Dolphins (68.2%), Rams (44.1%), and Niners (37.7%), all run variants of the Shanahan schemed offense with head coaches all out of that coaching tree.

As we all know, those pre-snap motions give a tell to the QB what the defense is playing, man or zone, by how they respond to the motion. That was missing under Carmichael hamstringing Carr's ability to make quicker decisions.

There is indeed reasons to be excited about the new offense based upon this single improvement alone.

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