Touchdown Wire’s Jarrett Bailey ranked Allen 32nd among the NFL’s 32 head coaches.
 

“Dennis Allen is the head coaching version of sitting on a whoopie cushion. The Saints have been dreadfully boring with no sense of direction ever since Sean Payton stepped away. They are 16-18 over their last two seasons and find themselves in quarterback purgatory as Derek Carr is clearly not the future. The Saints’ best option would be to finally blow everything up and begin to rebuild in 2025. It would be three years after they should have done it, but better late than never.”

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:popcorn:

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Wow.

L.D. Bell has work to do.

A lot of solid QBs on the 2024 schedule.

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I try to be positive but DA just isn't giving me the right vibes. I hoped he would grow with the job but he's not inspiring in the least.

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Its ok. He’s only our HEAD COACH.

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Yeah, well we've had ****ty ones before, we probably have ****ty ones again in the future, just hope we can get a good one at some point along the way. Kinda like the idiots who run the country. Nothing you or I, or anyone else can do about it.

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We are the fans, the paying customer, the so-called constituents (in the political sense). To assume the position that “there is nothing that you or I, or anyone else can do about it”, is to send a clear message to the service provider to “just keep doing what you’re doing.” If our team has a long history of sucky coaches and mediocre performance, or if we are governed by idiocy, there is definitely something to look at within ourselves.

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Well, the truth does bother some people, but glad you feel trolling, engaging fans on a NFL forum will do a lot to change the actual state of a pro football team. Good on ya, keep it up. I'm almost positive Mrs. Benson will change it all once she sees your input.

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:roflmao:

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Not gonna lie, the man can chop some wood!

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Im glad that you feel glad trolling me. In all of the yawn-worthy threads that you could have shook your pom poms at, you picked mine. Im so glad.

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Hey Rosie… I think your cute little emojis are connected to your IGNORE button. Might wanna adjust that thing.

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yeah, don't flatter yourself too much. and i do like my pom pom's.

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I came here to drop a report that ranks our Substitute Head Coach. You came to troll me personally. I cant help but be flattered.

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Just think, Dougie Pederson was in the building.

He's already taken the Jags to the divisonal rd in post season and cooked the Saints last season on prime time TV in the dome.

Anything less than a playoff appearance for Allen, he should be replaced. Saints are approaching year 4 without a playoff appearance.

Unacceptable.

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How much success did Belichick have before and after Brady? A lot of people are not fans, but the job Tomlin has done in Pittsburgh is amazing. 17 seasons without a losing record is just great coaching. He will let Wilson do his thing, unlike Payton who's ego wouldn't allow it, and I expect the Steelers to contend this season.

Allen is a good guy. He's a very good defensive coach. The league is offense driven. He needs an offensive coordinator to run that side of the ball. I believe he has it. I like this Saints team the most since Brees left.

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You're right. Allen seems like a good guy and he's a really good DC but his situational awareness calling games is definitely questionable. He's probably not the right guy but we'll find out this season. If he fails then we've got the "guy in the building" and his name is Klint Kubiak. If DA falters and gets fired then Kubiak should be next in line if he is able to resuscitate this walking dead offense from last season.

I also like this Saints team the most since Drew retired but I don't have faith in Dennis Allen to make the right calls at HC like he does as defensive coordinator. I'll give DA credit for putting together a stronger team than when Payton left.

Nonetheless, I'm thinking there's a reason he's graded as the worst coach with a terrible record as HC. And the reason is.....Dennis Allen.

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No. The reason is that the person doing the grading is as lazy as are the flunkies around here. But they have an excuse because haters gonna hate. They don't have to have a reason.

:D

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We need a new Head Coach, like two seasons ago.

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Good guys never win championships :beatnik:

If LD Bell fails again in 2024, he needs to be replaced.

A career Head coaching record of 24-46 is failng.

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All these talking heads were just picking the Saints to run away with the division last year because of Carr. Let’s be real, they’re just guessing at best.

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Oh, no. We suck again. :shock:

Just kidding. Let's at least give the team time to prove they suck before we stab them in the back. Maybe. Just maybe KK gives us the leadership we need.

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We sucked for two seasons with Dennis Allen as Head Coach. How much more proof do you need?

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I don't need more proof that he sucks. I know he sucks but we'll have to see if we get better with KK.

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We sucked far worse with Sean Payton 2014-2016 than we have with Allen. We were 6 games under .500. We're only one game under with Allen. I guess Payton sucked too, huh?

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No. Payton was a completely different breed. FACT. We were blessed for a good minute there. Now go chew on a bar of soap.

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What ever it is that the sinner guy keeps posting it can be addressed with one truism.

Haters gonna hate.

Nothing else matters.

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I do believe that we're talking apples and oranges here. Sean Payton had already taken a team fresh off Katrina to a Super bowl three years later while building a respectable record. He struggled because he held on to his old coaches too long and didn't evolve with fresh ideas and concepts. Nepotism is why he struggled.

In fact, that has been a team problem for way too long. Maybe it's because we are a family run business and not a greedy corporation that only cares about profit and public perception. The problem was our coaches weren't good enough to get poached and they were all drinking buddies.

When Payton cleaned house he brought in the right coaches. It looks like DA has done the same thing. In 2022 he cleared out most of the defensive coaches Payton hired and fielded a good defense. This year he let the offensive staff go and replaced thm with his people. Let's find out if it works.

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FACTERS (AND FACTORS) GONNA FACT.
IGNORERS AINT GONNA IGNORE. 😜

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Nepotism has always been a huge part of the entire NFL, not just the Saints. Half the great "coaching trees" are figuratively, and sometimes literally, "family trees". Some of us are excited about Klint Kubiak who studied with Kyle Shanahan and father Gary Kubiak mastering the offensive schemes of Mike Shanahan.

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Hey, I was just damn glad to see Gary Kubiak out there at minicamp. The more input from proven coaches we can get, the better off we are. I really like Klint Kubiak's choices for his coaching staff. Almost everyone of them are grizzled veterans of the wide zone offense.

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See? What I started as a pessimistic (somewhat realistic) post, can easily evolve into potential positives (even if potentially unrealistic), without any animosity. 😉

This is the beauty (and ugliness) of free speech. Thank you Rugs, for keeping it real.

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This isn’t a glowing endorsement for Dennis Allen. The New Orleans Saints head coach was graded worst among his peers by NBC Sports analyst Patrick Daugherty, clocking in at the bottom of the offseason coach rankings — at least among returning head coaches. The eight first-year coaches were also ranked beneath Allen, but that’s because they’re all relatively unknown quantities.

Unfortunately for Allen, we know exactly what he is and where his shortcomings lie. We’ll let Daugherty explain why Allen was ranked at No. 24 among the 24 head coaches returning from 2023:

“We lost a lot of bad coaches last winter. Arthur Smith, Brandon Staley, Josh McDaniels and Ron Rivera send their regards. That means we are left with the merely mediocre to round out our list. No one is more committed to the bit than Dennis Allen. A defensive coordinator trapped in a head coach’s body, Allen has treated Sean Payton’s leftover offense like a museum heirloom that disintegrates if you touch it. This is an attack that hasn’t innovated in three years, right down to banging Alvin Kamara between the tackles for no reason and rushing Taysom Hill onto the field any time there’s a critical down. Well, it’s not entirely true there’s been no innovation. Allen has decided to find out just how boring Drew Brees-style quarterbacking can become. Andy Dalton pushed the envelope in 2022. Derek Carr reached new heights in 2023. Allen, who admittedly takes care of business on defense, has finally moved on from Payton Ball on offense but replaced it with … Kubiak Ball. Not Gary, but Klint. It’s a fine system in a vacuum. It’s also become mummified under Klint, with no new wrinkles inserted since the Peyton Manning days in Denver. Maybe 2023 49ers passing-game coordinator Klint learned something under coach Kyle Shanahan. That’s what the Saints’ season and Allen’s future employment hinges on: This old Kubiak dog picking up some new Shanahan tricks. I suppose there are worse plans, but I’m not seeing many for 2024.”

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Your typical trash. You liked this one so much you posted it in two different threads.

This is just typical for national media "Mom! I don't like them. They are boring me..."

Any team that doesn't have Mahommes, or Allen, or Jackson dazzling them every 3rd play gets this label.

So of course they will rank Allen below coaches who did worse than he did last year. Because he's boring.

SFIAH

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Yes. He is boring.