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Boston Saint 09-09-2024 07:41 AM

NFL Bias showing
 
So it is already happening. I’m watching the morning show on the NFL network and their blatant favoritism is on full display.

First thing they do is cover the Rams/Lions game. Now this was obviously a nationally televised game in a prime time slot…Probably the most watched game of yesterday. So, what does the NFL do? They proceeded to spend about 10 minutes showing highlights of a game that most fans watched live. They then proceeded to spend about another 15 minutes analyzing and talking about the game with a fine-toothed comb.

They then switch to about three minutes showing maybe four plays of highlights of a “lesser” game (Atl/Pitt I think) with no in studio commentary, and then proceed to show 10 minutes of Dallas highlights with in-studio breakdowns of the Cowboys’ performance.

The league bias for certain teams/cities is disgusting.

Rant over. Now six days to savor the win.

vpheughan 09-09-2024 07:50 AM

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The end of the 4th quarter was a large dose of Deja Vu. Same score! Almost the same field position, and Detroit heading in the same direction. Totally enjoyed the looks on the Rams players faces after the Lions DROVE the ball down their throats for the W!! To quote Sean Mcay............"I saw nothing wrong with the play." Hurts, don't it? "Sean" :rofl: :rofl:

On a side note: How come Alex Anzalone couldn't stay healthy when he was a Saint? He's only missed 3 games as a Lion and in 4 years with the Saints only played 16 games 2 of his 4 years.

BakoSaint 09-09-2024 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 1000617)
So it is already happening. I’m watching the morning show on the NFL network and their blatant favoritism is on full display.

First thing they do is cover the Rams/Lions game. Now this was obviously a nationally televised game in a prime time slot…Probably the most watched game of yesterday. So, what does the NFL do? They proceeded to spend about 10 minutes showing highlights of a game that most fans watched live. They then proceeded to spend about another 15 minutes analyzing and talking about the game with a fine-toothed comb.

They then switch to about three minutes showing maybe four plays of highlights of a “lesser” game (Atl/Pitt I think) with no in studio commentary, and then proceed to show 10 minutes of Dallas highlights with in-studio breakdowns of the Cowboys’ performance.

The league bias for certain teams/cities is disgusting.

Rant over. Now six days to savor the win.

I think this could relate to our societies stupid obsession with prequels and remakes instead of original stories with uncertain endings. Most people are sheep and prefer being told stories where they already know what will happen. They take more pride in defeating themselves in an imaginary quiz bowl over minute details than in seeing something new.

saintsfan1976 09-09-2024 08:18 AM

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Good. Don't eat the cheese.

leilung 09-09-2024 08:25 AM

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Just like a parent who says: "But I love all of my kids equally."

You KNOW who the favorite sibling is!

Nothing new. Just roll with it.

Cruize 09-09-2024 09:26 AM

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The Saints will be all the talk when they smoke the Cowpukes. :)

keithday123 09-09-2024 09:39 AM

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These are smart people producing and directing these shows and they know what the consumer wants to see and trust me Carolina vs Saints ain’t it. That’s good though, stay under the radar. As we have seen in the past winning will bring the reward of popularity, if you consider that a reward. Forget the pundits, enjoy the win yesterday and talk s__t to whoever for at least one week. Lol

Boston Saint 09-09-2024 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by keithday123 (Post 1000631)
These are smart people producing and directing these shows and they know what the consumer wants to see and trust me Carolina vs Saints ain’t it. That’s good though, stay under the radar. As we have seen in the past winning will bring the reward of popularity, if you consider that a reward. Forget the pundits, enjoy the win yesterday and talk s__t to whoever for at least one week. Lol

But it’s chicken and egg thing. Do they talk about the Rams and Cowboys because people love them, or do people love the Rams and Cowboys because they talk about them so damn much?

And believe me, I can understand the under the radar approach and I pretty much agree with it. I’m not wanting to go out and shout about my team until they win it all. It’s just a dishonest thing they do and I wish they would admit it. The NFL should say “hey, we as a league promote and pull for Dallas, the Niners, the Rams, and KC”. I’d respect that more than them acting like it’s a equal footing league when we damn well know it’s not. A 10-year-old kid watching these highlights isn’t going to want to see Dallas highlights over Saints highlights. But when a 10-year-old kid sees five times as much Dallas highlights then he does Saints highlights from games in which both teams performed very well then it’s much more likely they are going to grow up a Dallas fan. That type of behavior sickens me from national coverage

Crusader 09-09-2024 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 1000618)
On a side note: How come Alex Anzalone couldn't stay healthy when he was a Saint? He's only missed 3 games as a Lion and in 4 years with the Saints only played 16 games 2 of his 4 years.

Godd question that proably has a complex answer. It might be a better diet, different strength and conditioning coaches, increased mobility training, yoga or just plain luck.

AsylumGuido 09-09-2024 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 1000639)
Godd question that proably has a complex answer. It might be a better diet, different strength and conditioning coaches, increased mobility training, yoga or just plain luck.

My money's on this one.

K Major 09-09-2024 01:17 PM

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You're simply not going to get any "headlines" beating up on the Kittens.

Now if you go out there and fold up the Cows on Sunday ... a different story, then even more attention heading into week 3 vs the Feagles.

Boston Saint 09-09-2024 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1000651)
You're simply not going to get any "headlines" beating up on the Kittens.

Now if you go out there and fold up the Cows on Sunday ... a different story, then even more attention heading into week 3 vs the Feagles.

Fair point. But I still maintain that if Dallas would’ve beaten the kittens 47 to 10 and held them to under 200 yards like we did that NFL network would’ve shown more Cowboy highlights than the few plays they showed of the Saints.

Rugby Saint II 09-09-2024 03:34 PM

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Hey, on the bright side I got to watch the game the game at home. Sorry Boston.

SaintFanInATLHELL 09-09-2024 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 1000629)
The Saints will be all the talk when they smoke the Cowpukes. :)

Wishful thinking. You know they won't. Win, lose, or draw, all the commentary about the next 3 Saints games will be about the opponent. We could smoke Dallas Sunday and Monday's talk will be how the Cowgirls did not meet their expectations.

The Saints are literally the Washington Generals in the national media world. Their only purpose is to serve as backdrop for the higher profile teams they actually want to talk about.

Saw it today. 3 minute segment on ESPN showing the Saints stomping the Kitties out. Did they talk about the new offense, the productive defense, or the Saints scoring on each of their first 9 drives. Of course not. They talked about how the Carolina organization has done a disservice to Bryce Young by not having their team prepared to play.

You have to just laugh because it's so obvious and pitiful.

Just remember that when the Saints won the SuperBowl in 2009, the next day they wanted to turn the page to next season, the draft, and who was most likely to win in 2010. And the Saints of course were not at the top of that list.

It's a joke.

SFIAH

xan 09-10-2024 06:13 AM

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Or...it could be that Dallas has the greater fan base nationwide, Dallas itself has over 6.5 million fans, while Greater Los Angeles has a population of 12.6 million, while the New Orleans fanbase, while loyal, vocal, and, in general, more sophisticated and intelligent, is only 1.5 million directly...

Maybe unfair, but hard to complain about the NFL going after the lowest common denominator.

saintsfan1976 09-10-2024 07:54 AM

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If your new source is corporate media, you should expect to be let down.

Boston Saint 09-10-2024 07:56 AM

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Ha Ha Ha….Just checked ESPN power rankings. Tampa at home beat Washington by 17 and move up EIGHT spots from 21 to 13. Saints beat Panthers by 37 and move up 2 spots to 23. So messed up. They really are gonna say there are 22 better teams than the Saints after a review of Sunday’s games?

And again it’s not that I want the Saints to be rated higher. I’m just pointing out the blatant media bias that clearly exists.

leilung 09-10-2024 10:36 AM

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I'm OK with not being the flavor of the week with the NFL.

Seems like every time the Saints look a little sexy, there's a nasty let down. I like staying under the radar as long as possible!

Boston Saint 09-10-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 1000702)
I'm OK with not being the flavor of the week with the NFL.

Seems like every time the Saints look a little sexy, there's a nasty let down. I like staying under the radar as long as possible!

I hear you Leilung and believe me I’m fine with the team not getting adulation just for the sake of it. Underdog role is great. I’m fine with my pride.

But there is a bigger picture involved. I want to see the bias removed from coverage because it’s the right thing for a league that says it wants to be impartial to do. How can you claim to not have a stake in who wins next week’s game when your own network blatantly promotes one team more than the other?

Also, Things like merchandise sales are impacted by this. When both the Saints and Cowboys win big yet the league talks about the Cowboys 5 to 10 times more than they do the Saints people are influenced by that. I just think it’s dishonest bull****.

AsylumGuido 09-10-2024 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 1000703)
I hear you Leilung and believe me I’m fine with the team not getting adulation just for the sake of it. Underdog role is great. I’m fine with my pride.

But there is a bigger picture involved. I want to see the bias removed from coverage because it’s the right thing for a league that says it wants to be impartial to do. How can you claim to not have a stake in who wins next week’s game when your own network blatantly promotes one team more than the other?

Also, Things like merchandise sales are impacted by this. When both the Saints and Cowboys win big yet the league talks about the Cowboys 5 to 10 times more than they do the Saints people are influenced by that. I just think it’s dishonest bull****.

Not quite. All merchandise sales are shared equally by all 32 franchises. If Dallas had five times the sales of all other teams combined and the Saints had no sales both franchises would receive an equal share. The profit sharing structure is the backbone to the league's success. No individual franchise is ever in danger of losing money.

Even a portion of ticket sales (34%) are shared between all of the teams.

saintsfan1976 09-10-2024 11:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 1000703)
I hear you Leilung and believe me I’m fine with the team not getting adulation just for the sake of it. Underdog role is great. I’m fine with my pride.

But there is a bigger picture involved. I want to see the bias removed from coverage because it’s the right thing for a league that says it wants to be impartial to do. How can you claim to not have a stake in who wins next week’s game when your own network blatantly promotes one team more than the other?

Also, Things like merchandise sales are impacted by this. When both the Saints and Cowboys win big yet the league talks about the Cowboys 5 to 10 times more than they do the Saints people are influenced by that. I just think it’s dishonest bull****.

Won't ever happen. The group of nerds still on staff all come from the same colleges. We're lucky to have Kay Adams and Stan Verrett :bng:

Boston Saint 09-10-2024 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1000704)
Not quite. All merchandise sales are shared equally by all 32 franchises. If Dallas had five times the sales of all other teams combined and the Saints had no sales both franchises would receive an equal share. The profit sharing structure is the backbone to the league's success. No individual franchise is ever in danger of losing money.

Even a portion of ticket sales (34%) are shared between all of the teams.

I was looking beyond the dollars of it. Almost as if it’s a badge of honor or bragging right. It means more than money. Teams and fans like to see their gear displayed. For example, I is a fan of the Saints love walking around outside of Louisiana and having people yell “Who Dat” at me just like I yell it up here when I see the rare Saints gear.

Boston Saint 09-10-2024 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1000706)
Won't ever happen. The group of nerds still on staff all come from the same colleges. We're lucky to have Kay Adams and Stan Verrett :bng:

I’m not naïve enough to think it’s going to change. But that fact doesn’t make me want to stop pointing it out. As long as I don’t beat the dead horse anyway and I’m pretty much done grousing about it

iceshack149 09-10-2024 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 1000688)
Or...it could be that Dallas has the greater fan base nationwide, Dallas itself has over 6.5 million fans, while Greater Los Angeles has a population of 12.6 million, while the New Orleans fanbase, while loyal, vocal, and, in general, more sophisticated and intelligent, is only 1.5 million directly...

Maybe unfair, but hard to complain about the NFL going after the lowest common denominator.

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 1000633)
But it’s chicken and egg thing. Do they talk about the Rams and Cowboys because people love them, or do people love the Rams and Cowboys because they talk about them so damn much?

And believe me, I can understand the under the radar approach and I pretty much agree with it. I’m not wanting to go out and shout about my team until they win it all. It’s just a dishonest thing they do and I wish they would admit it. The NFL should say “hey, we as a league promote and pull for Dallas, the Niners, the Rams, and KC”. I’d respect that more than them acting like it’s a equal footing league when we damn well know it’s not. A 10-year-old kid watching these highlights isn’t going to want to see Dallas highlights over Saints highlights. But when a 10-year-old kid sees five times as much Dallas highlights then he does Saints highlights from games in which both teams performed very well then it’s much more likely they are going to grow up a Dallas fan. That type of behavior sickens me from national coverage

In my experience growing up in Alaska I've really only had two teams consistently on tv--The Cowboys and Seahawks. I've only owned one jersey and it was a Tony Dorsett jersey when I was 4 or 5 years old. So Boston has a valid question: "Do they talk about the Rams and Cowboys because people love them, or do people love the Rams and Cowboys because they talk about them so damn much?" And obviously, I understand the markets of these teams. Dallas, Texas and Los Angeles, California have millions of people in their respective markets while New Orleans, Louisiana has thousands.

Rugby Saint II 09-10-2024 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1000715)
In my experience growing up in Alaska I've really only had two teams consistently on tv--The Cowboys and Seahawks. I've only owned one jersey and it was a Tony Dorsett jersey when I was 4 or 5 years old. So Boston has a valid question: "Do they talk about the Rams and Cowboys because people love them, or do people love the Rams and Cowboys because they talk about them so damn much?"

The answer is the latter.

Boston Saint 09-11-2024 06:51 PM

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Well, hope that NFL bias means they will be showing the Dallas game up here this weekend !

K Major 09-11-2024 07:40 PM

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AsylumGuido 09-12-2024 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 1000793)
Well, hope that NFL bias means they will be showing the Dallas game up here this weekend !

Unfortunately not, Boston. You get the Patriots. :(

https://506sports.com/2024/02-FOX.png

Boston Saint 09-12-2024 10:39 AM

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I’ve got a feeling it will be shown heavily on NFLN game day coverage. Between that and the red zone channel I should be good.

iceshack149 09-12-2024 11:28 AM

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https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2024&wk=2
F-ing Seattle v New England.:brood:

Boston Saint 09-12-2024 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1000814)
https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2024&wk=2
F-ing Seattle v New England.:brood:

I feel your pain ice….literally.

K Major 09-12-2024 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1000814)
https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2024&wk=2
F-ing Seattle v New England.:brood:

Damn, that's cold :disgusted:

Boston Saint 09-12-2024 01:39 PM

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You need to petition the NFL for an Anchorage team ice!

SaintFanInATLHELL 09-12-2024 10:05 PM

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The Saints actually got a segment on Get Up on ESPN today in the reflected spotlight on the CowGirls today. Take a look because you'll see this about as often as a unicorn in Times Square:


Spoiler alert: The entire panel of course picked the CowGirls to win.

SFIAH

K Major 09-20-2024 11:54 AM

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Bump

K Major 09-20-2024 12:02 PM

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See post #11.

All you have to do is win ...

I live in the DFW (Dallas/Ft Worth) area and all they have talked about is this Saints "juggernaut" team.

Same goes for the National media outlets as well. When you annihilate that team with the star on their helmet in THEIR house ... you get folks attention quickly.

Now it's the Eagles (another big market team) turn ... > Just Keep Winning

https://media4.giphy.com/media/kEL26...iphy.webp&ct=g

Rugby Saint II 09-21-2024 02:19 PM

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The media is just waiting to stab us in the back when Dallas wins a game.


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