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Just signed in. Don't know if anyone else said it but the Oline was 3/5 2nd string. The main missing factor??? Taysom Hill. The team just plays better when he is in there.

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If our entire offense depends on the health of a 34 year old ball carrier who specializes in inviting physical hits, it will probably be a long season. Hill is a fun player but his age and style of play do not translate to exceptional durability.

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LOVE LOVE LOVE me some Taysom - but if our entire offense depends on the health of a 34 year old ball carrier who specializes in inviting physical hits, we are in more trouble than even I would have surmised.

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I seriously doubt that’s the case. That would be pretty ridiculous. He’s one of my favorite players, but the offense doesn’t NEED him to operate. I think everyone knows that.

Laid an egg. Hopefully they right the ship this weekend.

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The offense is not SOLELY on Hill. But he absolutely is a difference maker.

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The same can be said for a lot of teams. I, for one, appreciate having that much talent when he can be on the field.

If we do not have Taysom, trust me, someone will. What follows will be an ocean of regret when he is running it up our azzes because he will not stay unemployed for long..

Maybe we protect him better. Just having him on the field changes accountability for a defense:bng:

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Taysom on the field always feels like we're running 12 on 11.

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My observations ...

Eagles fans showed up in huge numbers and were just as vocal as were Saints fans.

Losing McCoy on the third snap of the game was critical. I wish we had someone backing up McCoy because shifting Ruiz over to center weakens two positions.

The absence of Taysom was glaring. We had dropped passes on plays where Taysom would have been the outlet. We had key short yardage plays where Taysom would have picked it up. We had situations where Taysom would have make the key blocks.

The defense worked their asses off and it showed late. They simply wore down.

I can't blame Kubiak or Carr for the offense. The same sort of plays were called but the execution by the positional backups was clearly lacking.

We were simply outmanned by the Eagles defensive line. Carr had no time at all on some plays.

All in all this was a game we were not expected to win by most, even at 100%, when the season started. Almost all of us would have been overjoyed being at 2-1 with a very close three point loss to the Eagles.

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I don't understand why we where in man coverage on 3rd and 16 but if they did want to run man then double the only receiving threat they had left that already had a career high in yardage. Carr is terrible when he's pressured and it seemed like he was pressured the whole game. I still have confidence but we have to give him more time.

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My Two Sheckles.

The Good
- Special Teams in every phase. Nice punt block helped keep the TO ratio in our favor.
- AK41 was a force to be reckoned with (87 yds Rushing/ 40 yds Receiving)
- Bryan Bresee is coming into his own (2 sacks/ 2 TFL) and Granderson is stepping up huge (1.5 sacks/ 2 TFL)
- Grupe (who was once a serious cause for concern) is solid in the Dome.
- D kept Hurts bottled up in the pocket until the end.

The Bad
- Cam, JJ, Foster, Howden, Shaheed, were all MIA.
- LB's looked good on stats, but were invisible when Sqauon got his touches. No WAY he's not covered!
- Our DB's looked confused. How do you play the Iggles without AJ Brown and STILL get thrown on for 311 yds? Please fix this and NEVER let us see it again!
- Zach Baun. WTAF! He looks like the second coming of Singletary out there! Was he just playing out of position when we had him or what?

The Ugly
- Dallas Effing Goeddart? Seriously? Did DA and company NOT see him as their go to after Smith got taken out of the game? Matthews should have been all over that in coverage, not roving over the top.
- No adjustments at the half? Come on Klint. You saw the problems the middle of our line was having with their DT's. How about sliding the pocket? Create some space somehow and give your receivers a chance!
- DA and his love affair with Man Coverage and the 4 Man Rush. Opportunities were missed throughout the game to shut up Ceedy and their Loud Mouthed fanbase to send them packing... QUIETLY...on their planes back to Philly!

Personal Rant
- I've heard several people suggest that the team was listening to the fickle ass media hype and feeling it.
I'm going to suggest that it was the COACHING staff that was smelling themselves going into this game! Lack of preparation, execution, and real-time game adjustments showed in the coaching decisions. (What in the Blue HELL was that defense called that made our DB's look like the Keystone Cops and Goeddart broke for 60+ yards anyway? Even a PREVENT would have been better than that steaming pile of Defense! I mean HELL, did we learn nothing from the Minneapolis Miracle!!!)

I hope this serves as 'Lessons Learned' and is never repeated again in 2024!
Rant Over

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BTW, I don't care how good your back ups are. When you lose your Center, it's HUGE. Especially facing a ginormous defensive front like Carter and the Iggles.

We had our chances. We just blew it. On to the Failclowns in a must win!

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I just want to cover these two items. As for Baun, yes, he was playing out of position with us, but when that ideal position is already manned by Demario Davis then that player is redundant and is a waste of a roster spot. Baun simply couldn't handle anywhere else he was used.

I have heard and read that "halftime adjustments" do not include material changes to the existing game plan and virtually never includes anything that was not practiced. If something like "sliding the pocket" wasn't a practiced part of the game plan then it or anything else not already in the game plan will be covered in those five minutes or so of available time. Check this out of the "Myth of Halftime Adjustments".

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In the Military, we call it 'contingency plans'. Working on the axiom: No good plan survives first contact with the enemy! (Unknown Author) or an even better one, "Everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth." -Mike Tyson

"Myth" or "Fact", there are coaches who come out of the halftime locker room with a different approach if their first isn't producing. It would have been nice to see some wrinkles to keep the chains moving and provide Carr with a little more time.

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One thing worth noting …

Late in the game I see Trevor Penning blocking a DB well out of bounds, resulting in a penalty.

He did the same thing in the Dallas game. That just can’t happen. It’s ok to be a bully from sideline sideline & in the trenches.

Gotta play smart football and within the rules.

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^^^ THIS RIGHT HERE… Coming from a military background myself, as well as having suited up to play the game under good and bad coaches, you simply NAILED IT. Thank You.

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It didn't look like he spit. I don't see anything resembling it. Someone is grasping for straws out there. LOL

Look at the two responses. They both basically said he's full of ****. :rolleyes:

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Just FYI, the biggest ish talker and instigator extraordinaire, Ceedy is stirring the pot after the game:
"Man, that's the dirtiest s--- I ever saw in football, bro. Y'all obviously saw forward progression was stopped. For them to take a cheap shot on one of our key players, it goes to show what type of team that is. They're front-runners."

I really can't stand that guy...and I'm being nice.

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Gardner-Johnson was always a trouble making piece of **** when he was with the Saints. No reason why he should be any different now, right?

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Not to mention Ceedy got cooked for a TD by Olave.

Just be quiet.

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Think my main gripe from the game is Kubiak looked like Pete Carmichael.

Everyone, everywhere could tell that the O line was in disarray. Carr had under a second on nearly every play, play action even less than that.

Eagles were stopping the wide runs because they were controlling the line of scrimmage.

So when they continually sent the 5 or 6 players, where was the fricking screen game?
Where was Jamaal Williams on short yardage?

Where was max protection to help the guards?

Where were the chips by the TE's or running backs to slow the rush?

How about a wide receiver reverse when they go all in on stopping Kamara??

The 2 point conversion play was vintage Carmichael and a bad decision and pass by Carr.

I really hope I'm wrong, but the lack of adjustment to something as clear as day, makes me think the first 2 weeks on offense were a fluke.

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Good god I hope you’re wrong.

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I mentioned this earlier, but adjustments are generally limited to what you have practiced the days before a game. No NFL team draws up plays in the dirt. No team can be prepared for every contingency. The CBA doesn't allow that much practice time weekly. It is what it is. Losing key personnel during a game is difficult for every team.

With a week's worth of prep for Atlanta we'll look a lot different that we did with two offensive linemen playing positions that they didn't take a snap at during the week.

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The excuses will come… that’s a natural reaction from a loyal fan. The shelf life of these excuses has an expiration date that will be this coming Sunday against the so-called “Failclowns”… in Atlanta

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From what I've been reading, TEs were invisible because they were in protection most of the game. I can't really argue with your other observations. Let's hope this is filed under "Lessons Learned" by the coaching staff and we go on a tear through the ATL!

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THIS will be a test for our “Coaching Staff”.