Observations and Overreactions from the Saints vs. Bucs game
 

Join in to discuss the thrilling and bummed out Saints loss to the Bucs in the Superdome.

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Pissed. Six games in and our NFL season is over

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There will be no quick fix. 600 yards of total offense given up by N.O.?

This team has quit on its HC.

Time to fire the guy who doesn’t have any answers.

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Turrible. Just turrible.

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I’m thinking if we just had a defense minded coach we wouldn’t be belching this 50-burger…

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So we are what we are … nuff said.

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We’re better than the Panthers… lil bit?

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* No push on the O-line with a 4th stringer at C and two backup guards and still we tried to run exclusivly in the middle.

* Rattler loked okay in the first half. It would have been good if we picked up some blitzes. Or just any blitz.

* Cam needs to retire.

* Kamara needs to be on another team next year.

* We need a runningback, like Deuce.

* Bub Means had a nice showing.

* Demario Davis looks older.

* Nobody could tackle. At all.

* D-line is ineffective. Young does some good things but doesn't produce much results. Neither does Granderson.

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Spencer Rattler is ok.
But he should never throw to Rashid Shaheed.

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Might be a blessing in disguise ... There is a silver lining, right? We cannot keep following the mantra from the head coach "keep doing what you're doing...", can we?

Who's buying the Rattler jersey now?

Will they teach him how to read and properly react to the blitz? Do they do that in college at OK and USCe?

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The good:
- The punter is doing well. Not such a sore point this year
- The timely emergence of Bub Means
- O-Line was a sieve, but at least seemed to keep the penalties down
- Rattler has things to work on, but showed a solid amount of upside
- The hurricane-ravaged TB area got a big win to feel good about. At least getting our butts kicked in had some societal benefit


The bad:
- Honey Badger seemed invisible today. Barely even saw him
- Terrible timing for the Olave concussion. Wasn't available for almost this whole game, and odds of him clearing by Thursday are awfully grim
- Kamara is looking banged up and starting to wear down (I don't blame him)
- TE corps of Moreau, Johnson and Holker played well in the receiving game, but it doesn't feel like we use them enough. Need to give Johnson and Holker some easy receptions as they seem athletic enough to make plays after the catch. This also would've made it easier on Rattler. Kubiak lost the plot on this one.


The Fugly:
- Making Irving and Tucker look like reincarnated versions of prime Marshawn Lynch and Frank Gore is certainly not good
- The horrid pursuit choices, gap discipline and tackling by the OLB and secondary. Honestly, it looked like Division II level, maybe even high school level
- The same horrid pursuit that our DB's use seems to be the instructions that the whole team uses when pursuing a scrambling QB. If you made Baker look like Mike Vick, you've got a problem
- Failing to capitalize on momentum after the tide turned in the second quarter and all the breaks went out way (numerous TB penalties, the deflection interceptions). It gave our defense a false sense of confidence from halftime onward. This proves the point that most of our defensive woes are a direct result of feckless coaching
- The Saints haven't looked this badly outcoached in a long time, particularly on the defensive side. Gary Gibbs and Rob Ryan PTSD at an absolute high

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Meanwhile the Cowboys are getting absolutely skull drug by Detroit.

Dallas is 0-3 at home thus far.

That win over the Cows in week 2 not looking all that impressive now.

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Doesn’t matter who your QB is when the Defense allows 51.

51 and Mayfield threw 3 interceptions… if 3 of his 36 attempts go a different way the score would have been much worse.

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Although it was ugly, but the offense scored! Do we even have a defense anymore? Time for a ground up guys and gals! If we can’t find a mediocre defense, the season is done!

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This should surely be the game that puts DA on the street, and yet I have no faith that either Gayle or Loomis have the intention of making his seat warm.

As I said last week, every game that goes by that this awful product is put forward is a massive middle finger to every supporter.

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THAT’S ^^^ what I’m talkin about.

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If the second quarter of this game was memory-holed ... we lost 44-0.

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Burn it down.

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Giving up almost 70 points and damn near 1k in total yards on defense (rank 32nd in ypg) over a two week span is absolutely insane and unacceptable.

That is next level bad. Dennis Lauscha & the Mickster better wake up.

They've quit on LD Bell. It's not going to get better.

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The Good
- Special Teams seems to be the strongest and most consistent part of the team
- Kudos for the D in generating turnovers that kept the game close early.
- Surprisingly found a pair and came back after being down 17-0 early and punched the Bucs in the face for a Halftime lead!
- Rattler's mobility created plays and generated scoring opportunities.

The Bad
- This OL, although showing signs of usability, is still pourous on it's middle against superior NT's. Saw it with Philly. Saw the same with the Bucs.
- With the exception of a couple of TE shots over the middle, ZERO receiving presence in the slot. I HATE to say it, but we may have to give MT a call and find out if he's available?
- Predictability. It was mentioned several times during the game how the Saints run on 3rd down more than just about any team in the NFL. Why?
- Can we PLEASE focus on small ball and move the chains before trying make these big splash plays? Honestly. The teams that are most successful are NOT swinging for the fences with any predictable regularity. Maybe because if you can score small on a consistent basis, you win? (The Steelers are NOT a great team. But they are winning ugly, so who cares?)

The UGLY
- This makes the 3rd concussion for Olave that I can recall, so he probably has more. Dude is game, but he is NOT durable. He's our best option at present, but he's a legit WR2 and not a WR1. Time to face that fact. (Also, he should be forced to wear a bonnet on his helmet when he gets cleared, for his own safety!)
- Hate to pull off old scabs, but we can go ALL the way back to the infamous "Beastquake" and "Minneapolis Miracle" to see the painful history of our DB's being too preoccupied with trying the lay on the 'big Lick' or strip the ball, intead of JUST WRAPPING THE GUY UP AND TACKLING! WTAF GUYS! This is so Pop Warner basic that it's idiocy to even talk about! But here we are yet again!
I'm so tired of seeing our guys running into each other, breaking the opposing Receiver or RB for a ridiulously long gain or TD! How many times do we have to see a rerun of the same sad unfunny movie? We come back and even I was more than willing to pin a bunch of this on DA. But at some point it's not the HC and his staff. It's not just just the schemes. It's the mindset of the D and their second half let down mentality.

I could go on, but at this point all I can see is there is a bunch of talent with no sharp focus. Chemistry makes up for tons if talent is lacking. But if they can't play complimentary team ball, it won't amount to Wins. Just more of the same disapointing ish on Sunday. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

Time for change.

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I want to see more of Rattler. Short week. Tough defense. Bad blood.

All the measuring sticks.

Good effort this week kid in an otherwise abominable game. Let's see what you can do.

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Kamara looked like he didn't want to be there.

Same on defense with exception of Alontae Taylor. The effort is terrible and they look the same as Kamara, like they do not care to be there.

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I dunno…..

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Having someone like McCoy there to call out protections would help out a rookie QB immensely, instead of a guy who was watching games from his couch two weeks ago.

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Alvin is getting worn out with the way he's being used. He's not an every down RB. Plus, his running strength is NOT between the tackles unless he's getting holes big enough to release him to the next tier of the D.

Taylor brings great energy. But he seems a little undisciplined with respect to sticking his coverage close and making the tackles consistently in space.

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Well this thread is misleading…no overreactions, just a lot of solid observations.
The Bucs are a good team that’s well coached and well…we are what our record says we are

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27 points in a single quarter is nothing to sneeze at. This team just can't keep stringing good plays together consistently. That and giving up HUGE chunk plays with poor tackling means certain implosion late in the game.