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Papa Voodoo 12-09-2024 02:01 PM

Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...-hand-fracture

That was unnecessary; seemed he was trying to motivate the team but he’s not Taysom. We will definitely know what we have at QB going into next season.

papz 12-09-2024 02:52 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
I want to see Haener with extended snaps. I don't think it would be a terrible idea to see both split halves. We need to prioritize finding out who can us help us next season and whether or not some of these guys deserve a roster spot. Kendre Miller is another guy that falls into this category. More Dallin Holker as well.

4everSaint 12-09-2024 03:21 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
Garner sucks. Rattler sucks. Carr sucks. So since Carr is done for the year and hopefully forever as a Saint. I’d like to see Rattler next week I guess over Haener.

arsaint 12-09-2024 03:45 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
Carr - nice guy, fragile QB


Best for him and the Saints to part ways ASAP

SmashMouth 12-09-2024 06:07 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 1005893)
I want to see Haener with extended snaps. I don't think it would be a terrible idea to see both split halves. We need to prioritize finding out who can us help us next season and whether or not some of these guys deserve a roster spot. Kendre Miller is another guy that falls into this category. More Dallin Holker as well.

I think it's "pretty boy" Haener time too.

The Bayou Rattler had his chance earlier in the season. He was not ready yet.

4everSaint 12-09-2024 07:27 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
How the hell did Haener turn to Garner in my post.

rezburna 12-09-2024 08:02 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
I wanna watch Rattler. He’s got more upside. It’s whatever though.

leilung 12-09-2024 08:11 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
At this point, does it even matter who?

4everSaint 12-09-2024 08:42 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 1005906)
At this point, does it even matter who?

Garner it is then.

neugey 12-09-2024 09:11 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4everSaint (Post 1005904)
How the hell did Haener turn to Garner in my post.


Because you have a Deadpool avatar and Jennifer Garner was in the last Deadpool movie. I mean she's gotta be hotter than the NY Giants flasher, right?


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03...5566225714.jpg

4everSaint 12-10-2024 12:30 AM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 1005909)
Because you have a Deadpool avatar and Jennifer Garner was in the last Deadpool movie. I mean she's gotta be hotter than the NY Giants flasher, right?


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03...5566225714.jpg

Well done my friend. Well done.

She is fire.🔥

WhoDat!656 12-10-2024 11:57 AM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
Saints add QB Ben DiNucci

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...qb-ben-dinucci

UK_WhoDat 12-10-2024 01:28 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 1005920)

To me, it doesn't make sense.

Career games in which he took snaps - 3

Snaps - 94

Pass completions - 23
Pass attempts - 43
Passing Yards - 219
TDs - 0
Interceptions - 0
Sacked - 7

Rushes - 6
Rushing yards - 22
Fumbled - 4

W-L = 0-3

All in year 2020.

If he plays, he will get injured.

SmashMouth 12-10-2024 02:10 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 1005920)

Quote:

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat (Post 1005923)
To me, it doesn't make sense.

Career games in which he took snaps - 3

Snaps - 94

Pass completions - 23
Pass attempts - 43
Passing Yards - 219
TDs - 0
Interceptions - 0
Sacked - 7

Rushes - 6
Rushing yards - 22
Fumbled - 4

W-L = 0-3

All in year 2020.

If he plays, he will get injured.

So the final piece of the SB puzzle? :p

jnormand 12-10-2024 03:06 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1005925)
So the final piece of the SB puzzle? :p

I know right?! Finally!!! Bahahahahaha!!

voodooido 12-10-2024 03:27 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 1005895)
Carr - nice guy, fragile QB


Best for him and the Saints to part ways ASAP

Not unless a miracle happens. His dead cap hit is 51 million next year.

BakoSaint 12-10-2024 04:34 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 1005929)
Not unless a miracle happens. His dead cap hit is 51 million next year.

It would not take a miracle. It would take the willingness to have a very bad season in 2025. Carr could be designate a post-June-1 cut at the start of the league year. That would defer $30mil of the $51mil dead cap hit to 2026 salary cap. Then we could restructure most our other players and make zero additions in free agency of anything more than veteran minimum level. We might go 0-17 or 0-18 in 2025 but our cap situation would be much better in 2026. But Loomis may not be willing to do it.

If we restructure Carr instead, it will make his dead cap in 2026 offseason similar, and we will just face the same decision year after year. Meanwhile Carr is a decent QB who has never won a playoff game, who is like the 40yo Virgin of the NFL playoffs, and we are hoping to sneak into the playoffs with the 40yo Virgin and then have him run the table. Just not a very realistic plan. Better to pick the worst option at QB now for cheap and get a great option later instead of settling for mediocrity forever.

SmashMouth 12-11-2024 08:21 AM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1005930)
It would not take a miracle. It would take the willingness to have a very bad season in 2025. Carr could be designate a post-June-1 cut at the start of the league year. That would defer $30mil of the $51mil dead cap hit to 2026 salary cap. Then we could restructure most our other players and make zero additions in free agency of anything more than veteran minimum level. We might go 0-17 or 0-18 in 2025 but our cap situation would be much better in 2026. But Loomis may not be willing to do it.

If we restructure Carr instead, it will make his dead cap in 2026 offseason similar, and we will just face the same decision year after year. Meanwhile Carr is a decent QB who has never won a playoff game, who is like the 40yo Virgin of the NFL playoffs, and we are hoping to sneak into the playoffs with the 40yo Virgin and then have him run the table. Just not a very realistic plan. Better to pick the worst option at QB now for cheap and get a great option later instead of settling for mediocrity forever.

For the sake of cleaning up the cap, we can endure a crappy season or two. Houston did it.

UK_WhoDat 12-11-2024 11:19 AM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1005933)
For the sake of cleaning up the cap, we can endure a crappy season or two. Houston did it.

Houston!

.
We have a problem

Getting the cap under control would certainly test the mettle of the support. Times have changed since bags on head. Everyone's expectation of their satisfaction level will not tolerate that now.

Rugby Saint II 12-11-2024 01:22 PM

Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1005933)
For the sake of cleaning up the cap, we can endure a crappy season or two. Houston did it.

Just don't extend players who don't have value. We keep extending contracts on players who are past their prime. I am willing to watch a couple years of bad football so we can get back on track and get to playing good football again. Let's get this cap under control and draft well so we can get younger and cheaper.


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