Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture

Papa Voodoo · 12-09-2024, 02:01 PM

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...-hand-fracture

That was unnecessary; seemed he was trying to motivate the team but he’s not Taysom. We will definitely know what we have at QB going into next season.

papz · 12-09-2024, 02:52 PM

I want to see Haener with extended snaps. I don't think it would be a terrible idea to see both split halves. We need to prioritize finding out who can us help us next season and whether or not some of these guys deserve a roster spot. Kendre Miller is another guy that falls into this category. More Dallin Holker as well.

SmashMouth · 12-09-2024, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I want to see Haener with extended snaps. I don't think it would be a terrible idea to see both split halves. We need to prioritize finding out who can us help us next season and whether or not some of these guys deserve a roster spot. Kendre Miller is another guy that falls into this category. More Dallin Holker as well.

I think it's "pretty boy" Haener time too.

The Bayou Rattler had his chance earlier in the season. He was not ready yet.

4everSaint · 12-09-2024, 03:21 PM

Garner sucks. Rattler sucks. Carr sucks. So since Carr is done for the year and hopefully forever as a Saint. I’d like to see Rattler next week I guess over Haener.

arsaint · 12-09-2024, 03:45 PM

Carr - nice guy, fragile QB

Best for him and the Saints to part ways ASAP

voodooido · 12-10-2024, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by arsaint

Carr - nice guy, fragile QB

Best for him and the Saints to part ways ASAP

Not unless a miracle happens. His dead cap hit is 51 million next year.

BakoSaint · 12-10-2024, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Not unless a miracle happens. His dead cap hit is 51 million next year.

It would not take a miracle. It would take the willingness to have a very bad season in 2025. Carr could be designate a post-June-1 cut at the start of the league year. That would defer $30mil of the $51mil dead cap hit to 2026 salary cap. Then we could restructure most our other players and make zero additions in free agency of anything more than veteran minimum level. We might go 0-17 or 0-18 in 2025 but our cap situation would be much better in 2026. But Loomis may not be willing to do it.

If we restructure Carr instead, it will make his dead cap in 2026 offseason similar, and we will just face the same decision year after year. Meanwhile Carr is a decent QB who has never won a playoff game, who is like the 40yo Virgin of the NFL playoffs, and we are hoping to sneak into the playoffs with the 40yo Virgin and then have him run the table. Just not a very realistic plan. Better to pick the worst option at QB now for cheap and get a great option later instead of settling for mediocrity forever.

SmashMouth · 12-11-2024, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

It would not take a miracle. It would take the willingness to have a very bad season in 2025. Carr could be designate a post-June-1 cut at the start of the league year. That would defer $30mil of the $51mil dead cap hit to 2026 salary cap. Then we could restructure most our other players and make zero additions in free agency of anything more than veteran minimum level. We might go 0-17 or 0-18 in 2025 but our cap situation would be much better in 2026. But Loomis may not be willing to do it.

If we restructure Carr instead, it will make his dead cap in 2026 offseason similar, and we will just face the same decision year after year. Meanwhile Carr is a decent QB who has never won a playoff game, who is like the 40yo Virgin of the NFL playoffs, and we are hoping to sneak into the playoffs with the 40yo Virgin and then have him run the table. Just not a very realistic plan. Better to pick the worst option at QB now for cheap and get a great option later instead of settling for mediocrity forever.

For the sake of cleaning up the cap, we can endure a crappy season or two. Houston did it.

4everSaint · 12-09-2024, 07:27 PM

How the hell did Haener turn to Garner in my post.

neugey · 12-09-2024, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by 4everSaint

How the hell did Haener turn to Garner in my post.

Because you have a Deadpool avatar and Jennifer Garner was in the last Deadpool movie. I mean she's gotta be hotter than the NY Giants flasher, right?

12-09-2024, 02:01 PM	#1
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...-hand-fracture That was unnecessary; seemed he was trying to motivate the team but he’s not Taysom. We will definitely know what we have at QB going into next season. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-09-2024, 02:52 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,772	Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture I want to see Haener with extended snaps. I don't think it would be a terrible idea to see both split halves. We need to prioritize finding out who can us help us next season and whether or not some of these guys deserve a roster spot. Kendre Miller is another guy that falls into this category. More Dallin Holker as well. UK_WhoDat, jnormand, neugey and 2 others like this.

12-09-2024, 06:07 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,514 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture Originally Posted by papz I want to see Haener with extended snaps. I don't think it would be a terrible idea to see both split halves. We need to prioritize finding out who can us help us next season and whether or not some of these guys deserve a roster spot. Kendre Miller is another guy that falls into this category. More Dallin Holker as well. I think it's "pretty boy" Haener time too. The Bayou Rattler had his chance earlier in the season. He was not ready yet.

12-09-2024, 03:21 PM	#4
4everSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Madison, MS Posts: 838	Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture Garner sucks. Rattler sucks. Carr sucks. So since Carr is done for the year and hopefully forever as a Saint. I’d like to see Rattler next week I guess over Haener.

12-09-2024, 03:45 PM	#5
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,732	Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture Carr - nice guy, fragile QB Best for him and the Saints to part ways ASAP Rugby Saint II, dizzle88, mapcow and 1 others like this.

12-10-2024, 03:27 PM	#6
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,826	Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture Originally Posted by arsaint Carr - nice guy, fragile QB Best for him and the Saints to part ways ASAP Not unless a miracle happens. His dead cap hit is 51 million next year.
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12-10-2024, 04:34 PM	#7
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,328	Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture Originally Posted by voodooido Not unless a miracle happens. His dead cap hit is 51 million next year. It would not take a miracle. It would take the willingness to have a very bad season in 2025. Carr could be designate a post-June-1 cut at the start of the league year. That would defer $30mil of the $51mil dead cap hit to 2026 salary cap. Then we could restructure most our other players and make zero additions in free agency of anything more than veteran minimum level. We might go 0-17 or 0-18 in 2025 but our cap situation would be much better in 2026. But Loomis may not be willing to do it. If we restructure Carr instead, it will make his dead cap in 2026 offseason similar, and we will just face the same decision year after year. Meanwhile Carr is a decent QB who has never won a playoff game, who is like the 40yo Virgin of the NFL playoffs, and we are hoping to sneak into the playoffs with the 40yo Virgin and then have him run the table. Just not a very realistic plan. Better to pick the worst option at QB now for cheap and get a great option later instead of settling for mediocrity forever.
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12-11-2024, 08:21 AM	#8
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,514 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture Originally Posted by BakoSaint It would not take a miracle. It would take the willingness to have a very bad season in 2025. Carr could be designate a post-June-1 cut at the start of the league year. That would defer $30mil of the $51mil dead cap hit to 2026 salary cap. Then we could restructure most our other players and make zero additions in free agency of anything more than veteran minimum level. We might go 0-17 or 0-18 in 2025 but our cap situation would be much better in 2026. But Loomis may not be willing to do it. If we restructure Carr instead, it will make his dead cap in 2026 offseason similar, and we will just face the same decision year after year. Meanwhile Carr is a decent QB who has never won a playoff game, who is like the 40yo Virgin of the NFL playoffs, and we are hoping to sneak into the playoffs with the 40yo Virgin and then have him run the table. Just not a very realistic plan. Better to pick the worst option at QB now for cheap and get a great option later instead of settling for mediocrity forever. For the sake of cleaning up the cap, we can endure a crappy season or two. Houston did it. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-09-2024, 07:27 PM	#9
4everSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Madison, MS Posts: 838	Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture How the hell did Haener turn to Garner in my post. neugey likes this.

12-09-2024, 09:11 PM	#10
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,825 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Derek Carr likely out for rest of season with left hand fracture Originally Posted by 4everSaint How the hell did Haener turn to Garner in my post. Because you have a Deadpool avatar and Jennifer Garner was in the last Deadpool movie. I mean she's gotta be hotter than the NY Giants flasher, right? SmashMouth likes this.