Observations from the Saints loss to the Commanders
 

After a valiant last-minute effort by Spencer Rattler and the Saints offense to bring the game to 20-19, the Saints go for 2-point conversion fails. Final score Washington 20, Saints 19 from the Superdome.

What are your observations from the game?

Bang it here and let us know.

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Primary Observation: Haener is not the One. Rattler is the immediate future.
Let's stop the silliness and give the guy his due.

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My Lord The Savior showed us he may be the future... Balls to call the 2 pt conversion, but in the end stupid

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The Saints will most likely finish 6-11. Good chance to beat the Raiders in the dome. Unlikely to beat the Packers or Bucs on the road without Carr.

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I reckon Kubiak called it.

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It's killing you so much, you can't even say his NAME!

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Rattler and Kendre balled out in 4th quarter.

Haener seems like a nice guy, but I don't think he see's the field again after how Rattler just played in the 4th.

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Rattler was impressive. We have an awful offensive line that is inconsistent at best. Offensive play call is wildly good or bad in any situation. Haener hasn't shown much even considering poor line play. At least Rattler can push the ball down the field and make things happen, and score.

The 2-point play... the play called was stupid. That's all I'm going to say about that stupid play Kubiak called.

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You don't think Rizzi called that? Coach Rizz lost his Jizz on that call... That also means he's out of the running as HC. :bng:

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https://youtu.be/76_Jd-e1BLw?si=6B6kEAfbJ435p6qx

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Like that they showed some fight in the second half. They could have phoned it in.

Love that they went for two. Did not love the play they called.

They made it interesting in the end, which is more that I expected.

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• I want a Shedeur Sanders or Cam Ward. If those two aren’t a possibility then I say draft the best LT on the board, move Fuaga to his natural side on the right, and then let Penning walk. Spencer Rattler continues to show me enough upside that I’d be willing to put some talent around him and see what he can do.

• I really like Kendre Miller. He has the potential to be great. He’s exactly what they wanted Jamal Williams to be. However, we need to draft a running back as well. This draft class is too talented to pass up.

• I saw more pass rush discipline then I normally see when we face mobile QB’s. Daniels is extremely gifted. He’s going to do what he does, but again, there was more discipline than usual. Joe Woods is doing a decent job calling the plays. I don’t think he has the players to run the scheme he wants though.

• Cornerback is going to be a major issue. This is why I was never ecstatic about the idea of trading Lattimore. Elite CB’s don’t grow on trees. Taylor is disappointing and Kool Aid definitely looks like a rookie.

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Agreed. Glad they were playing.

One has to wonder how we would’ve fared if Rattler would’ve started.

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Penning seems to have found a home. Do get him some competition in the later rounds though. We need G more, IMHO.

CB is always a need every year. So continue . At least you got something for Latt, who may be waning in his latter years .

We still need a TE who can make a difference , and now a built WR. We need another speedster anyway with Olave's concussion track record .

Defense is where we've aged significantly. LBers, DE and DT.

And we need to clean cap at the same time . Time to bite the bullet as The Bayou Rattler continues to grow . Pretty Boy Haener is back up materials at best at this point . Carr can move on also.

Still fun to see the team almost come back.

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Ouch. Seems like Haener might as well be Billy Joe Haener. At any rate, to come back and get to a coin-flip 2 point conversion chance of pulling off the upset seems like about all we could hope for.

Two questions for yours truly who just got back in town and is seeing the results:
1) How in the world do we sack the elusive Daniels 8 times and not have better command of this game?!
2) Did Lattimore not play, or just not just show up in the box score because we stayed away from him?

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A couple of sacks were on 2nd down and then the commanders converted on third down anyway. One of them, Daniels made Demario look extremely amateur.

However the D did pick it up in the 2nd half and for the most part shut Washington down.

Daniels however, did miss 2 wide open touchdowns, so this game could have a easily been a blowout with 2 better throws.

Neither QB seemed to look Latts way.

Lattimores weakness is speed or shiftiness, but neither QB had any amount of time in the pocket for that to develop really.

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Care or no Carr Rattler should finish year as starter. It’s ridiculous that this staff thought Haener was a better option today. Hopefully he has seen his last game as a starter. Rattler was average but what can you expect with that sh-t o-line and throwing to 7-9 starting receiving group. Now that we are officially eliminated this should be a no brainer for Loomis

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Saw this just now

Referees made huge mistake at end of Commanders-Saints game

The clock stopped with 9 seconds left for a few seconds. The Saints ran up and spiked the ball with 3 seconds left in order to run another play.

Refs stopped the game clock for 4 seconds when it should have been running

freezes at :09 while play clock ticks from :39 to :35


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So that's two that we know of, counting the time they didn't realize the play clock had run out on the Commanders. Speaking of, isn't there a ref who is responsible for watching the play clock?

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Realistically I can see why they had to give Haener a chance to start. Rattler had several starts and struggled so if Haener was not given a chance now, fans would assume he is a living legend and clamor for him to be the day 1 starter next year. Apparently Haener is as good or better in practice, which makes sense, in practice he isn't afraid of being hit, in games he is, even preseason. Realistically even if we won this game, this is not a championship team and we weren't beating the packers and bucs to go to the playoffs, and giving Haener 1 start to confirm what we have in him was reasonable.

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :beatnik:

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Guys, I have to confess - this was 100% my fault. I took the Commanders and gave 7 points.

Had I not, the Saints wouldn't have covered the spread.

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Seriously.

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I heard the accidental pause was 2.7 seconds, which would put the Saints snap at 0.3 seconds. However, realistically Rattler or some Saints player was probably able to glance at the clock and see how much time they had. If they had 3 seconds less, I believe there is at least a 50% chance they could have acted 1 second faster while seeing that and having more urgency, and got the ball spiked with 1 second left.

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Well, at least it’s only the preseason.

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The refs "should" have penalised Bobby Wagner for holding Moreau down for 3 seconds.

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While some view this as a loss, I'm looking at it like we got the best of both worlds. We showed we could beat the Commanders while maintaining our position in the draft. The goal of any team is to win the Super Bowl, and we know it won't happen this year. We showed that this team can turn it on if it has to while also setting up the future

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uh.. hate to disagree, but to show the world that the Saints could beat the Commanders, would mean to actually win the game.... just sayin. :beatnik::bng:

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Saints Fans are resilient… to the point of delusional, which keeps Lady Gayle laughing all the way to the bank, for producing dog sh*t.

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We literally needed to convert a 2 point conversion to win the game. Are you telling me they would have stopped us 100% of the time? IF you aren't telling me that, we could have won that game. If we are a playoff team we kick the pat and probably go to overtime and don't risk that there. I mean be honest, do you think winning that game helps us more long term than losing?

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The second half was inspiring. I thought the decision to go for it was the right call. We lost the game and have a little bit better draft position because of it. I was satisfied with the outcome.

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for me, yes. but then again, i am biased to winning. honestly..... how often is a 2 pt conversion successful....especially when the opposing team is fighting for the win? :beatnik: :bng:

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I don't think that the decision greatly changes our odds of winning. The 2pt conversion is 50/50. Overtime is 50/50. Not a big difference. And either way I don't think we make the playoffs. If we win we are still a game behind the Falcons for 2nd place in the division who have an easier schedule than us the rest of the way, and the Falcons are not currently in line for the playoffs.

Honestly what OT would give us with our luck is an opportunity for another injury. Probably if we go to OT, Fuaga suffers a hip fracture on a freak play and missed the 2025 season.

Getting it over with, win or lose, was the right call in that situation.

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I think Spencer Rattler has shown enough to supplant Derek Carr as the starter going forward.

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Derek Carr would have never led that final drive that Rattler did.

He would have done that dumbass "oh there's a rusher, I'll run backwards and just heave a pass nowhere" thing he does at least 3 times every game

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In one game? Carr is not good, but we saw Rattler before and they had to switch to Haener. We will see again, trying to be positive, but my gut tells me we will see a below par showing

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Prophecy realized