ESPN designs odd scenario to get Derek Carr off of the Saints

saintsfan1976 · 02-01-2025, 07:48 AM

I'm not sure of Carr's contract details but doesn't he have a "no trade" clause?

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2025, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'm not sure of Carr's contract details but doesn't he have a "no trade" clause?

Yes. A full no trade clause.

voodooido · 02-01-2025, 09:16 AM

He would go to Pittsburgh and thrive

BakoSaint · 02-02-2025, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

He would go to Pittsburgh and thrive

If Carr stayed healthy in Pittsburgh he might make the playoffs but then say he gets to the playoffs and there are Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow, etc. Carr will be one and done. But also Pittsburgh is no sure thing. They finished the season on a 4 game losing streak, were one and done in the playoffs, and Watt had no sacks in the last 3 games of the regular season or in the postseason. Pittsburgh has one receiver who sometimes makes effort and their defense depends too much on one player who could be starting to decline. In many ways Pittburgh is in just a slightly better position than the Saints when they brought in Carr, where the team seems to just need a QB but many other cracks are showing that could offset a slight improvement at QB.

Danno · 02-03-2025, 03:59 PM

I'd like to see what Carr could do with a decent O-line. He looked really good the 1st two games before our O-line started falling apart.

He might surprise us.

saintsfan1976 · 02-03-2025, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'd like to see what Carr could do with a decent O-line. He looked really good the 1st two games before our O-line started falling apart.

He might surprise us.

It's been said many times - if everything is perfect around Carr, he can win games. Beyond that, he's below average.

SmashMouth · 02-03-2025, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'd like to see what Carr could do with a decent O-line. He looked really good the 1st two games before our O-line started falling apart.

He might surprise us.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

It's been said many times - if everything is perfect around Carr, he can win games. Beyond that, he's below average.

So therein lies one of the many differences between Carr and the Brees' of the world. It's still open for debate whether it was entirely all on the OL after the first two games. Opponents do watch game film is likely more on point. An average QB will have trouble raising his game unlike a Brees. We've said many times that Brees made his OL look way better than they actually were.

TheOak · 02-04-2025, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

It's been said many times - if everything is perfect around Carr, he can win games. Beyond that, he's below average.

With perfect conditions, you Sir. could also win games. Willing to suit up for peasantry $20MM?

saintsfan1976 · 02-04-2025, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

With perfect conditions, you Sir. could also win games. Willing to suit up for peasantry $20MM?

Have you seen me in a uniform? I'd make more in donations from people who feel sorry for me!

saintsfan1976 · 02-04-2025, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There are only four or five QB's in the league today that can be counted upon to take their teams very far into the playoffs. We had one of those types in Brees. I agree that Carr isn't one of those types, but very few are. We can keep throwing them against the wall hoping one finally sticks. It may take twenty years. In the meantime, we must do our best with what we have through the draft and free agency and hope to have some luck.

Originally Posted by Danno

I'd like to see what Carr could do with a decent O-line. He looked really good the 1st two games before our O-line started falling apart.

He might surprise us.

Reminds me of a saying;

"If you discover you're on the wrong train, it's best to get off as soon as possible because the return ticket only grow more expensive..."

But yeah, sure, if Kellen sees him as the best option as a bridge QB then you run with him for another year and hope things remain solid around him.

02-01-2025, 07:48 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: ESPN designs odd scenario to get Derek Carr off of the Saints I'm not sure of Carr's contract details but doesn't he have a "no trade" clause?

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: ESPN designs odd scenario to get Derek Carr off of the Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'm not sure of Carr's contract details but doesn't he have a "no trade" clause? Yes. A full no trade clause.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,415	Re: ESPN designs odd scenario to get Derek Carr off of the Saints Originally Posted by voodooido He would go to Pittsburgh and thrive If Carr stayed healthy in Pittsburgh he might make the playoffs but then say he gets to the playoffs and there are Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow, etc. Carr will be one and done. But also Pittsburgh is no sure thing. They finished the season on a 4 game losing streak, were one and done in the playoffs, and Watt had no sacks in the last 3 games of the regular season or in the postseason. Pittsburgh has one receiver who sometimes makes effort and their defense depends too much on one player who could be starting to decline. In many ways Pittburgh is in just a slightly better position than the Saints when they brought in Carr, where the team seems to just need a QB but many other cracks are showing that could offset a slight improvement at QB.
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: ESPN designs odd scenario to get Derek Carr off of the Saints Originally Posted by Danno I'd like to see what Carr could do with a decent O-line. He looked really good the 1st two games before our O-line started falling apart. He might surprise us. It's been said many times - if everything is perfect around Carr, he can win games. Beyond that, he's below average. K Major and rezburna like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,979 Blog Entries: 29	Re: ESPN designs odd scenario to get Derek Carr off of the Saints Originally Posted by Danno I'd like to see what Carr could do with a decent O-line. He looked really good the 1st two games before our O-line started falling apart. He might surprise us. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 It's been said many times - if everything is perfect around Carr, he can win games. Beyond that, he's below average. So therein lies one of the many differences between Carr and the Brees' of the world. It's still open for debate whether it was entirely all on the OL after the first two games. Opponents do watch game film is likely more on point. An average QB will have trouble raising his game unlike a Brees. We've said many times that Brees made his OL look way better than they actually were. jnormand likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: ESPN designs odd scenario to get Derek Carr off of the Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 It's been said many times - if everything is perfect around Carr, he can win games. Beyond that, he's below average. With perfect conditions, you Sir. could also win games. Willing to suit up for peasantry $20MM?

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: ESPN designs odd scenario to get Derek Carr off of the Saints Originally Posted by TheOak With perfect conditions, you Sir. could also win games. Willing to suit up for peasantry $20MM? Have you seen me in a uniform? I'd make more in donations from people who feel sorry for me!

02-04-2025, 09:57 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: ESPN designs odd scenario to get Derek Carr off of the Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There are only four or five QB's in the league today that can be counted upon to take their teams very far into the playoffs. We had one of those types in Brees. I agree that Carr isn't one of those types, but very few are. We can keep throwing them against the wall hoping one finally sticks. It may take twenty years. In the meantime, we must do our best with what we have through the draft and free agency and hope to have some luck. Originally Posted by Danno I'd like to see what Carr could do with a decent O-line. He looked really good the 1st two games before our O-line started falling apart. He might surprise us. Reminds me of a saying; "If you discover you're on the wrong train, it's best to get off as soon as possible because the return ticket only grow more expensive..." But yeah, sure, if Kellen sees him as the best option as a bridge QB then you run with him for another year and hope things remain solid around him.