If true this is absolutely disgusting

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2025, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

From the Associated Press, which should be more reputable than some. However, the timing of dropping this story on Super Bowl week in NOLA is about as creepy as some of the things alleged.

Mostly old news that's being rehashed to take advantage of the visibility available to maximize clicks and the related ad revenues. Note the byline on the story. It's not credited to any individual reports and simply carries a generic Associated Press byline. Not condoning anything that the Saints did or didn't do, but this is opportunistic grandstanding, pure and simple.

neugey · 02-03-2025, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Mostly old news that's being rehashed to take advantage of the visibility available to maximize clicks and the related ad revenues. Note the byline on the story. It's not credited to any individual reports and simply carries a generic Associated Press byline. Not condoning anything that the Saints did or didn't do, but this is opportunistic grandstanding, pure and simple.

The AP News version of the article has the byline ... Jim Mustain and Brett Martel

https://apnews.com/article/new-orlea...4a9db1897f8171

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2025, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

The AP News version of the article has the byline ... Jim Mustain and Brett Martel

https://apnews.com/article/new-orlea...4a9db1897f8171

Mustain isn't Associated Press. He is with National Catholic Reporter and has been rehashing this story since 2019.

https://www.ncronline.org/authors/jim-mustain

It appears Mustain came to Martel to get the story back out there again.

https://www.americamagazine.org/voices/brett-martel

neugey · 02-03-2025, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Mustain isn't Associated Press. He is with National Catholic Reporter and has been rehashing this story since 2019.

https://www.ncronline.org/authors/jim-mustain

It appears Mustain came to Martel to get the story back out there again.

https://www.americamagazine.org/voices/brett-martel

That's good to know. There may be more bias here than we should see from supposedly-objective investigative reporting.

Still, if there's an email trail ... it might get interesting. We saw how quickly Gruden was dealt with.

It ticks me off when press people sit on stories for so long. There are real survivors out there that deserve the truth, not a publicity stunt.

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2025, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

That's good to know. There may be more bias here than we should see from supposedly-objective investigative reporting.

Still, if there's an email trail ... it might get interesting. We saw how quickly Gruden was dealt with.

It ticks me off when press people sit on stories for so long. There are real survivors out there that deserve the truth, not a publicity stunt.

They really didn't sit on much. Most of this was shared years ago. But the timing was definitely planned for hoped impact. From everything I'm seeing out there this "story" is well down the list of national interest surrounding the game.

neugey · 02-03-2025, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They really didn't sit on much. Most of this was shared years ago. But the timing was definitely planned for hoped impact. From everything I'm seeing out there this "story" is well down the list of national interest surrounding the game.

Kind of by accident, since all the NBA trade deadline news is taking precedent. Being a Lakers fan as well as a Saints fan, I feel like I half-forgot the Saints still need a coach after the Luka trade bombshell this weekend!!!

I share the angst of others though. If there's enough there to prove without bias that the Saints brass were involved in the damage control of the abusers, heads should roll.

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2025, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

That's good to know. There may be more bias here than we should see from supposedly-objective investigative reporting.

Still, if there's an email trail ... it might get interesting. We saw how quickly Gruden was dealt with.

It ticks me off when press people sit on stories for so long. There are real survivors out there that deserve the truth, not a publicity stunt.

Believe me when I say that the present day media and press is absolutely biased. Things have evolved, or should I say dissolved, a great deal since the 70's and 80's when I was part of the "Fourth Estate". It is no longer reporting the news. It is now creating and selling.

bobdog86 · 02-03-2025, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Believe me when I say that the present day media and press is absolutely biased. Things have evolved, or should I say dissolved, a great deal since the 70's and 80's when I was part of the "Fourth Estate". It is no longer reporting the news. It is now creating and selling.

Sad, but very, very true.

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2025, 03:47 PM

The NFL has been aware of all of this since at least 2019. Here's what Goodell had to say when asked about it today.

A little more here.

neugey · 02-03-2025, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Believe me when I say that the present day media and press is absolutely biased. Things have evolved, or should I say dissolved, a great deal since the 70's and 80's when I was part of the "Fourth Estate". It is no longer reporting the news. It is now creating and selling.

I worked for the newspaper in Omaha in the 2000's on their core web tech. The staff seemed like a mix of proper journalists, solid writers and pond scum. The upper management was fixated on ad revenue though. It was one of the few that stayed independent for quite some time and didn't get swallowed by Gannett. I probably got a kinder and gentler view of the industry than what was out there.

02-03-2025, 11:41 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by neugey From the Associated Press, which should be more reputable than some. However, the timing of dropping this story on Super Bowl week in NOLA is about as creepy as some of the things alleged. Mostly old news that's being rehashed to take advantage of the visibility available to maximize clicks and the related ad revenues. Note the byline on the story. It's not credited to any individual reports and simply carries a generic Associated Press byline. Not condoning anything that the Saints did or didn't do, but this is opportunistic grandstanding, pure and simple.

02-03-2025, 12:55 PM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,876 Blog Entries: 13	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Mostly old news that's being rehashed to take advantage of the visibility available to maximize clicks and the related ad revenues. Note the byline on the story. It's not credited to any individual reports and simply carries a generic Associated Press byline. Not condoning anything that the Saints did or didn't do, but this is opportunistic grandstanding, pure and simple. The AP News version of the article has the byline ... Jim Mustain and Brett Martel https://apnews.com/article/new-orlea...4a9db1897f8171

02-03-2025, 02:45 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by neugey The AP News version of the article has the byline ... Jim Mustain and Brett Martel https://apnews.com/article/new-orlea...4a9db1897f8171 Mustain isn't Associated Press. He is with National Catholic Reporter and has been rehashing this story since 2019. https://www.ncronline.org/authors/jim-mustain It appears Mustain came to Martel to get the story back out there again. https://www.americamagazine.org/voices/brett-martel

02-03-2025, 03:14 PM	#4
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,876 Blog Entries: 13	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Mustain isn't Associated Press. He is with National Catholic Reporter and has been rehashing this story since 2019. https://www.ncronline.org/authors/jim-mustain It appears Mustain came to Martel to get the story back out there again. https://www.americamagazine.org/voices/brett-martel That's good to know. There may be more bias here than we should see from supposedly-objective investigative reporting. Still, if there's an email trail ... it might get interesting. We saw how quickly Gruden was dealt with. It ticks me off when press people sit on stories for so long. There are real survivors out there that deserve the truth, not a publicity stunt.

02-03-2025, 03:20 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by neugey That's good to know. There may be more bias here than we should see from supposedly-objective investigative reporting. Still, if there's an email trail ... it might get interesting. We saw how quickly Gruden was dealt with. It ticks me off when press people sit on stories for so long. There are real survivors out there that deserve the truth, not a publicity stunt. They really didn't sit on much. Most of this was shared years ago. But the timing was definitely planned for hoped impact. From everything I'm seeing out there this "story" is well down the list of national interest surrounding the game.

02-03-2025, 03:28 PM	#6
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,876 Blog Entries: 13	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They really didn't sit on much. Most of this was shared years ago. But the timing was definitely planned for hoped impact. From everything I'm seeing out there this "story" is well down the list of national interest surrounding the game. Kind of by accident, since all the NBA trade deadline news is taking precedent. Being a Lakers fan as well as a Saints fan, I feel like I half-forgot the Saints still need a coach after the Luka trade bombshell this weekend!!! I share the angst of others though. If there's enough there to prove without bias that the Saints brass were involved in the damage control of the abusers, heads should roll.

02-03-2025, 03:29 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by neugey That's good to know. There may be more bias here than we should see from supposedly-objective investigative reporting. Still, if there's an email trail ... it might get interesting. We saw how quickly Gruden was dealt with. It ticks me off when press people sit on stories for so long. There are real survivors out there that deserve the truth, not a publicity stunt. Believe me when I say that the present day media and press is absolutely biased. Things have evolved, or should I say dissolved, a great deal since the 70's and 80's when I was part of the "Fourth Estate". It is no longer reporting the news. It is now creating and selling. turbo_dog and neugey like this.

02-03-2025, 03:45 PM	#8
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,487	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Believe me when I say that the present day media and press is absolutely biased. Things have evolved, or should I say dissolved, a great deal since the 70's and 80's when I was part of the "Fourth Estate". It is no longer reporting the news. It is now creating and selling. Sad, but very, very true.

02-03-2025, 03:47 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting The NFL has been aware of all of this since at least 2019. Here's what Goodell had to say when asked about it today. Twitter A little more here. Twitter

02-03-2025, 04:32 PM	#10
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,876 Blog Entries: 13	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Believe me when I say that the present day media and press is absolutely biased. Things have evolved, or should I say dissolved, a great deal since the 70's and 80's when I was part of the "Fourth Estate". It is no longer reporting the news. It is now creating and selling. I worked for the newspaper in Omaha in the 2000's on their core web tech. The staff seemed like a mix of proper journalists, solid writers and pond scum. The upper management was fixated on ad revenue though. It was one of the few that stayed independent for quite some time and didn't get swallowed by Gannett. I probably got a kinder and gentler view of the industry than what was out there. AsylumGuido likes this.