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AsylumGuido 02-06-2025 04:46 PM

Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
When asked by Kay Adams they both seemed open, and even a bit enthused, by the idea. Also, any chance to post Kay Adams here is a plus.


BakoSaint 02-06-2025 05:25 PM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
I would also be interested in Drew Brees or Reggie Bush as a General Manager. John Elway won a ring as Broncos GM. Ozzie Newsome and John Lynch were great GMs.

The Dude 02-08-2025 08:05 AM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
Hell no. They don’t know **** about coaching. Maybe an assistant but that’s it. For Gods sake don’t let Brees get anywhere near the money. Dude is a horrible investor and money manager.

AsylumGuido 02-08-2025 09:57 AM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 1007562)
Hell no. They don’t know **** about coaching. Maybe an assistant but that’s it. For Gods sake don’t let Brees get anywhere near the money. Dude is a horrible investor and money manager.

He's "managed" to have a current net worth of over $160 million. Not too shabby.

rezburna 02-08-2025 11:06 AM

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I wouldn’t be mad at it. More former players/HOF’ers should get a shot at coaching.

AsylumGuido 02-10-2025 09:22 AM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
Well, Kellen Moore's background was as a player. Not out of the realm of possibility some day.

zbeaster 02-13-2025 11:58 AM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
This would be awesome.

neugey 02-13-2025 12:38 PM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
There's another black and gold team that needs Drew's help a lot more ... Purdue.

Danno 02-13-2025 03:48 PM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
Great players rarely make great coaches. The Demeco Ryans are the exception, not the rule.

AsylumGuido 02-13-2025 04:30 PM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 1007786)
Great players rarely make great coaches. The Demeco Ryans are the exception, not the rule.

What are some great players that tried and didn't make good coaches? I was trying to remember some, but must have went blank. Maybe they all had enough money that they didn't want to deal with the headaches. :D

I did think of Ditka. Definitely a great player. He wasn't good at New Orleans, but won a chamionship with Chicago, right? Anyone else think of other examples good or bad? Succeeded or failed?

Primetime, maybe?

neugey 02-13-2025 06:12 PM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1007791)
What are some great players that tried and didn't make good coaches? I was trying to remember some, but must have went blank. Maybe they all had enough money that they didn't want to deal with the headaches. :D

I did think of Ditka. Definitely a great player. He wasn't good at New Orleans, but won a chamionship with Chicago, right? Anyone else think of other examples good or bad? Succeeded or failed?

Primetime, maybe?


In the NBA it's a thing. Magic Johnson, Steve Nash, and I feel like I'm forgetting others.

neugey 02-13-2025 06:20 PM

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Also Jeff Saturday

arsaint 02-14-2025 08:02 AM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
Given Brees' prep and football IQ I think he would be a good QB coach.

All that being said, time is money and I am not sure we could afford his time...

AsylumGuido 02-14-2025 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 1007812)
Given Brees' prep and football IQ I think he would be a good QB coach.

All that being said, time is money and I am not sure we could afford his time...

Coaches don't count against the cap. It doesn't matter how much they get paid. Gayle is the second richest person in Louisiana.

vpheughan 02-14-2025 10:08 AM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1007791)
What are some great players that tried and didn't make good coaches? I was trying to remember some, but must have went blank. Maybe they all had enough money that they didn't want to deal with the headaches. :D

I did think of Ditka. Definitely a great player. He wasn't good at New Orleans, but won a chamionship with Chicago, right? Anyone else think of other examples good or bad? Succeeded or failed?

Primetime, maybe?

1. Bart Starr
2. Mike Singletary
3. Herm Edwards
4. Art Shell

BakoSaint 02-14-2025 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1007818)
Coaches don't count against the cap. It doesn't matter how much they get paid. Gayle is the second richest person in Louisiana.

It doesnt matter a lot but it does matter a little because the more they are paid the more it entices management to let them finish out their contract even if they struggle. You dont get rich by paying people bug bucks not to work so many owners are hesitant to take thaf big hit. If DA was making $20 million a year he might still be head coach.

TheOak 02-22-2025 02:22 AM

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I’ve been in too many organizations where someone that was very good in a STEM field or specific application was promoted into a managerial role with catastrophic results.

A quick change of the phrasing eliminates confirmation bias. How many great coaches were great players?

How many businesses have you seen fail because someone with talent while working ‘in the business’ didn’t translate to talent working ‘on the business’?

Same goes for leading people. Great motivators are rarely great something else’s and vice versa.

neugey 02-22-2025 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 1007996)
I’ve been in too many organizations where someone that was very good in a STEM field or specific application was promoted into a managerial role with catastrophic results.

A quick change of the phrasing eliminates confirmation bias. How many great coaches were great players?

How many businesses have you seen fail because someone with talent while working ‘in the business’ didn’t translate to talent working ‘on the business’?

Same goes for leading people. Great motivators are rarely great something else’s and vice versa.


Great leadership can look different. Even in football there is no archetype. Bill Belichick, Tom Osborne, Jimmy Johnson, Tom Landry, etc. are all different from each other. If you can inspire trust and motivate people without being a hypocrite or a liar that's a start.

4everSaint 02-22-2025 08:21 AM

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Key word Reggie used. "Anomaly." About Dan Campbell. I had them going to the SB this year. But they couldn't get it done. In their house.

Rugby Saint II 02-23-2025 04:09 PM

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I wouldn't mind seeing what they have to offer in TC.

TheOak 02-26-2025 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 1007998)
Great leadership can look different. Even in football there is no archetype. Bill Belichick, Tom Osborne, Jimmy Johnson, Tom Landry, etc. are all different from each other. If you can inspire trust and motivate people without being a hypocrite or a liar that's a start.

Very true even what a majority might consider great leadership will not resonate with 100% of the team. Leadership can generally be boiled down to 'hard love'. It has to be unwavering and must come across as coming from a passion for the players.

It can and often however cascade through an organization. I am sure there were more than one player that didn't care for Sean Payton's style but saw Drew as a leader and Drew's respect for Sean bled over.

One of the biggest misunderstandings in the topic is that most people can not differentiate between Inspiration, Motivation, and Leadership. There are some crossover principles but all very different principles.:bng:

BakoSaint 02-26-2025 05:22 PM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
I would like to see one as Executive Vice President and the other as General Manager.

saintsfan1976 02-27-2025 07:56 AM

Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 1008042)
Very true even what a majority might consider great leadership will not resonate with 100% of the team. Leadership can generally be boiled down to 'hard love'. It has to be unwavering and must come across as coming from a passion for the players.

It can and often however cascade through an organization. I am sure there were more than one player that didn't care for Sean Payton's style but saw Drew as a leader and Drew's respect for Sean bled over.

One of the biggest misunderstandings in the topic is that most people can not differentiate between Inspiration, Motivation, and Leadership. There are some crossover principles but all very different principles.:bng:

Well said.

Accountability breeds accountability.


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