Are the Saints the De Facto Worst Team in the NFL?

SmashMouth · 05-13-2025, 11:20 AM

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Methinks NOT. But it'll be fun year nonetheless.

rezburna · 05-13-2025, 11:27 AM

People don't watch ball. I'll say that over and over again.

BakoSaint · 05-13-2025, 04:13 PM

We definitely could be the worst team if things go wrong. I expect we are most likely to regress a little because our young QBs, while they are cheaper with more upside, are also more likely to struggle at first than proven mediocre Carr, and many of our core players like Kamara, Jordan, Hill, Mathieu, Davis, Olave, McCoy, Shaheed, etc are either old and/or having a lot of injury issues. But although we only won 5 games and could be likely to regress, I still think many of the teams that lost 5 or more games last year are a little more likely to be a little worse. For example the Jets won only 5 games and replaced Rodgers with Fields which is a big step down. The Titans had the #1 pick but he is a bit raw and they are coming off a 3 win season. The Browns are also coming off a 3 win season and have a mess at QB. the Giants won 3 games and added Russell Wilson and a raw rookie QB but Russ keeps getting older and could get hurt and there is no guarantee they improve. I think we are the 4th worst team but definitely a contender for worst. And honestly teams like Atlanta (if Penix gets hurt), Carolina (if Young regresses or gets hurt), the Raiders (if Geno struggles and rookie RB is ineffective without oline), the Patriots (if Maye doesnt progress), etc could easily be worse too. Most likely our window is pick 1-10 in 2026 draft.

jnormand · 05-13-2025, 07:54 PM

I definitely don’t think we’re gonna be the worst. Tbh, I have no idea how this team will play out. We’ve got a new coach and staff, a new defensive scheme and we have some players that are kind of wild cards. They may or may not surprise.

I don’t think the Saints are gonna be worse than they were last year. I see it as a 4 to 7 win season. But I’d be happy with good development and chemistry regardless of how many wins.

I just want to see improvement on both sides of the ball and something to look forward to in the future.

saintsfan1976 · 05-14-2025, 07:38 AM

So many variables to consider as the season plays out but I can say we're better here:

- Entire Coaching Staff upgraded
- O Line can be top 10 in league
- Offensive scheme/identity
- Special Teams will be strong

Unanswered questions:

- Secondary
- D Line: Pass rush + Run D
- Did we do enough to improve pass-catchers

rezburna · 05-14-2025, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

So many variables to consider as the season plays out but I can say we're better here:

- Entire Coaching Staff upgraded
- O Line can be top 10 in league
- Offensive scheme/identity
- Special Teams will be strong

Unanswered questions:

- Secondary
- D Line: Pass rush + Run D
- Did we do enough to improve pass-catchers

I think Justin Reid and Tyrann Mathieu can be one of the top 5 safety combos in the league. If they bring in Asante Samuel, Jr. and move to a zone heavy scheme then I can see Kool Aid taking a huge step forward and secondary being a strength for this team.

Defensive line is the huge question mark for me. It wouldn't hurt to improve WR and/or TE too.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,391	Re: Are the Saints the De Facto Worst Team in the NFL? We definitely could be the worst team if things go wrong. I expect we are most likely to regress a little because our young QBs, while they are cheaper with more upside, are also more likely to struggle at first than proven mediocre Carr, and many of our core players like Kamara, Jordan, Hill, Mathieu, Davis, Olave, McCoy, Shaheed, etc are either old and/or having a lot of injury issues. But although we only won 5 games and could be likely to regress, I still think many of the teams that lost 5 or more games last year are a little more likely to be a little worse. For example the Jets won only 5 games and replaced Rodgers with Fields which is a big step down. The Titans had the #1 pick but he is a bit raw and they are coming off a 3 win season. The Browns are also coming off a 3 win season and have a mess at QB. the Giants won 3 games and added Russell Wilson and a raw rookie QB but Russ keeps getting older and could get hurt and there is no guarantee they improve. I think we are the 4th worst team but definitely a contender for worst. And honestly teams like Atlanta (if Penix gets hurt), Carolina (if Young regresses or gets hurt), the Raiders (if Geno struggles and rookie RB is ineffective without oline), the Patriots (if Maye doesnt progress), etc could easily be worse too. Most likely our window is pick 1-10 in 2026 draft.
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,760	Re: Are the Saints the De Facto Worst Team in the NFL? I definitely don’t think we’re gonna be the worst. Tbh, I have no idea how this team will play out. We’ve got a new coach and staff, a new defensive scheme and we have some players that are kind of wild cards. They may or may not surprise. I don’t think the Saints are gonna be worse than they were last year. I see it as a 4 to 7 win season. But I’d be happy with good development and chemistry regardless of how many wins. I just want to see improvement on both sides of the ball and something to look forward to in the future. SmashMouth likes this.

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05-14-2025, 07:48 AM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,097	Re: Are the Saints the De Facto Worst Team in the NFL? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 So many variables to consider as the season plays out but I can say we're better here: - Entire Coaching Staff upgraded - O Line can be top 10 in league - Offensive scheme/identity - Special Teams will be strong Unanswered questions: - Secondary - D Line: Pass rush + Run D - Did we do enough to improve pass-catchers I think Justin Reid and Tyrann Mathieu can be one of the top 5 safety combos in the league. If they bring in Asante Samuel, Jr. and move to a zone heavy scheme then I can see Kool Aid taking a huge step forward and secondary being a strength for this team. Defensive line is the huge question mark for me. It wouldn't hurt to improve WR and/or TE too. WhoDat!656 likes this.