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SmashMouth 06-08-2025 02:41 PM

2025 Saints Mini Camp
 
Who's ready for some Saints Mini Camp action?

AsylumGuido 06-08-2025 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1010206)
Who's ready for some Saints Mini Camp action?

Hopefully Tyler Shough. :D

SaintFanInATLHELL 06-08-2025 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1010207)
Hopefully Tyler Shough. :D

Spencer Rattler too...

rezburna 06-08-2025 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 1010208)
Spencer Rattler too...

🐍

saintsfan1976 06-09-2025 06:22 AM

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Was curious as to the rules and regulations of NFL Minicamp today so I looked it up:

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NFL Minicamp Rules

The NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), specifically Articles 21 and 22, governs minicamp rules to ensure player safety and standardize offseason activities. Below is a concise overview of the key rules for mandatory and voluntary minicamps, including rookie and veteran sessions.

Types and Timing:

Each team may hold one mandatory minicamp for veteran players during Phase Three of the nine-week offseason program, typically in June.

Teams with new head coaches can hold an additional voluntary veteran minicamp before the NFL Draft, no earlier than week three of the offseason program and after at least one week of Phase One activities.

Each team may hold one post-draft rookie minicamp (three days) on either the first or second weekend following the NFL Draft (e.g., May 2-5 or May 9-12 in 2025).

Rookie football development programs can last seven weeks (e.g., starting May 12 in 2025), but no activities occur on weekends except for the post-draft rookie minicamp.

Duration and Structure:

Minicamps last three days, with a maximum of 10 hours per day for player activities, including meals, classroom time, and on-field work. On-field practice is limited to 3.5 hours per day, with individual sessions not exceeding 2.5 hours.

Teams can hold two practices on two of the three days, but the second practice must be a walk-through.

The first day includes physicals, with three days of on-field work.

Contact and Equipment:

No live contact is allowed, including blocking, tackling, pass rushing, or bump-and-run drills. No one-on-one offense vs. defense drills (e.g., offensive vs. defensive linemen or receivers vs. defensive backs) are permitted.

Players wear helmets but no pads, and drills are conducted in shorts and jerseys to minimize injury risk.

Phase One (first two weeks) is limited to strength, conditioning, and rehab, while Phase Two (three weeks) allows non-contact drills. Phase Three (including minicamps) permits 7-on-7, 9-on-7, and 11-on-11 drills without contact.

Rookie Minicamp Specifics:

Attendees include draft picks, undrafted free agents, first-year players, and up to five veteran tryout players not under contract.

Focus is on orientation, learning basic playbook elements (formations, coverages, routes), and assessing player readiness. Most time is spent in classrooms with scaled-down playbooks.

Some teams limit draft picks’ practice reps to prioritize conditioning, letting undrafted players get more field time due to injury concerns (e.g., Dante Fowler’s 2015 ACL injury).

Mandatory Attendance and Fines:

Veterans under contract must attend mandatory minicamps, or they face fines: $15,515 for the first day, $31,030 for the second, and $46,540 for the third (up to $93,085 total in 2022, subject to change).

Rookie minicamps and voluntary veteran minicamps are not mandatory, with attendance at the coach’s discretion.

Unsigned franchise-tagged players are not required to attend but can sign injury waivers to participate.

Safety and Compliance:

All practices must be filmed, with footage retained for 30 days before training camp to allow the NFLPA to investigate rule violations (e.g., excessive contact).

Violations, like contact drills or improper equipment (e.g., pads), can result in fines or loss of draft picks. For example, the 2016 Baltimore Ravens were fined approximately $350,000 and lost OTA days for using pads, and the Seattle Seahawks were fined $400,000 and docked a fifth-round pick for contact violations.

Injured players receive the same financial protections as during training camp.

Other Rules:

Workouts are limited to four per week, with no weekend sessions, and the mandatory minicamp counts as one week.

Intensity must prioritize player safety and learning, with drills at a teaching tempo.

Players receive meal allowances, travel expenses, and per diem for attending. Rookies and first-year players get specific daily compensation.

“Dead ball” drills in early phases allow limited activities (e.g., QBs throwing to uncovered receivers, long snappers snapping into nets), with no offense vs. defense matchups.

These rules balance player development with safety, limiting physicality to reduce injuries while allowing teams to install playbooks and evaluate talent.

SmashMouth 06-09-2025 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1010210)
Was curious as to the rules and regulations of NFL Minicamp today so I looked it up:

No weekend work? I should show my employer that... LOLz

SmashMouth 06-09-2025 08:06 AM

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AsylumGuido 06-10-2025 07:41 AM

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SmashMouth 06-10-2025 07:51 PM

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SmashMouth 06-10-2025 08:47 PM

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SmashMouth 06-10-2025 08:48 PM

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leilung 06-11-2025 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1010229)

Not for nothing, but whoever has their kid screaming in the background isn't helping anyone focus on what he's saying.... :confused:

SmashMouth 06-11-2025 07:55 PM

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SmashMouth 06-12-2025 05:46 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/live/9TJLnKk...unOCAzZiz3WTWm

SmashMouth 06-12-2025 05:56 PM

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SmashMouth 06-13-2025 03:42 PM

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saintsfan1976 06-13-2025 04:00 PM

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Kellen gives me the sense he could be a modern day version of Sean Payton.

The way Sean connected with his players but in a different style.

The scheme and play-calling but less predictable week to week.

The staff with more input from the group and specialized backgrounds.

I'm so optimistic it's scaring me.

SmashMouth 06-13-2025 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1010246)
Kellen gives me the sense he could be a modern day version of Sean Payton.

The way Sean connected with his players but in a different style.

The scheme and play-calling but less predictable week to week.

The staff with more input from the group and specialized backgrounds.

I'm so optimistic it's scaring me.

Might be better ... we'll see.

Rugby Saint II 06-14-2025 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1010246)
Kellen gives me the sense he could be a modern day version of Sean Payton.

The way Sean connected with his players but in a different style.

The scheme and play-calling but less predictable week to week.

The staff with more input from the group and specialized backgrounds.

I'm so optimistic it's scaring me.

Welcome to my world!!!

:biggun:

SmashMouth 06-16-2025 09:45 AM

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K Major 06-16-2025 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1010276)

It's a good thing Shough is a tall QB. The WR core is a bit "smallish".

SmashMouth 06-16-2025 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1010278)
It's a good thing Shough is a tall QB. The WR core is a bit "smallish".

Did you notice the musculature of his legs? Makes the others look way smallish, other than The Gambler (Hunter Dekkers).


Rugby Saint II 06-16-2025 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1010278)
It's a good thing Shough is a tall QB. The WR core is a bit "smallish".

Our offensive line is pretty tall. They range from 6'4" to 6'7".

SmashMouth 06-19-2025 11:39 AM

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iceshack149 07-28-2025 11:15 AM

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Wait, is Jake Haener Really a Threat to Win Saints QB Competition?
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Haener went 5-for-7 during 11-on-11 period on Friday afternoon, and throughout the early days of camp, he’s showed a preparedness in the meeting rooms and a willingness to push the ball down the field that has impressed Kellen Moore and the Saints coaching staff. After Friday’s practice, Moore reiterated that he viewed New Orleans’ QB competition as a three-man tilt.
https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/new-orl...k-competition/

iceshack149 08-01-2025 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1010246)
Kellen gives me the sense he could be a modern day version of Sean Payton.

The way Sean connected with his players but in a different style.

The scheme and play-calling but less predictable week to week.

The staff with more input from the group and specialized backgrounds.

I'm so optimistic it's scaring me.

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 1010264)
Welcome to my world!!!

:biggun:

None of us know what this team is going to look like this year and beyond so allow me to throw some water on your optimistic fire:

Kellen Moore already making Saints mistake Cowboys fans are familiar with
The Dallas faithful already knew this, but New Orleans may have hired someone who isn't ready to be a head coach.
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Moore has taken an egalitarian approach to evaluating Rattler, Shough and Haener. They've taken turns rotating daily, splitting first, second and third-team reps evenly. While some may call this leaving no stone unturned or due diligence, others can rightfully see it as indecisiveness.

There's no denying that Moore is a proven play-caller who understands football's X's and O's. His success as an offensive coordinator in Dallas, and most recently with the defending Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles, validates that notion. But he's ostensibly scrambling for a signal-caller solution, and the optics paint a picture of someone unsure of themselves.
https://fansided.com/nfl/kellen-moor...-familiar-with

Edit: That was kind of a jerk move so let me also add a positive spin:
Young Saints defenders making early statement during training camp
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New Orleans Saints cornerbacks Kool-Aid McKinstry and Quincy Riley have been among the biggest noisemakers during the first week of the team's training camp.
When talking about Riley, a fourth-round pick (No. 131 overall) in April's NFL Draft, Moore praised his awareness and aggressive playing style.
"He finds the ball and he attacks the football," Moore observed. "That's one thing we saw on film coming into the draft process. He's a ball guy," Moore elaborated.
Moore didn't stop his praise there. He also acknowledged second-year pro McKinstry, a 2024 second-round pick (No. 41 overall), noting, "This has been a big-time camp for Kool-Aid.
"He's played phenomenal," Moore said. "His confidence, every single day, he's just making a ton of plays and to see his ability to transition in the coverage game is really, really good."
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/artic...13132_42520425

iceshack149 08-01-2025 09:38 PM

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Who has QB1 edge among Saints' Spencer Rattler, Tyler Shough and Jake Haener?
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“I know what I bring to the table,” said Rattler, who noted that he has taken second- but not third-team reps on days when first-team reps were allocated elsewhere. “I was confident in what I can do in this competition. I feel like that brings the best out of me. And I feel like throughout this camp, I’ve been the best quarterback on the field.
https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article...Y&guccounter=2
Rattler is gaining confidence. It appears that he's currently in the lead of this race with Shough struggling.

SmashMouth 08-02-2025 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1010775)
Wait, is Jake Haener Really a Threat to Win Saints QB Competition?

https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/new-orl...k-competition/

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1010829)
None of us know what this team is going to look like this year and beyond so allow me to throw some water on your optimistic fire:

Kellen Moore already making Saints mistake Cowboys fans are familiar with
The Dallas faithful already knew this, but New Orleans may have hired someone who isn't ready to be a head coach.

https://fansided.com/nfl/kellen-moor...-familiar-with

Edit: That was kind of a jerk move so let me also add a positive spin:
Young Saints defenders making early statement during training camp


https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/artic...13132_42520425

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1010834)
Who has QB1 edge among Saints' Spencer Rattler, Tyler Shough and Jake Haener?

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article...Y&guccounter=2
Rattler is gaining confidence. It appears that he's currently in the lead of this race with Shough struggling.

In case it matters for your posts, Mini-camp has been over for a while. We have another thread for Training Camp contributions.

iceshack149 08-02-2025 03:07 PM

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