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Is Kellen Moore Already Proving He Is the Next Sean Payton?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Sean was philosophical and a thinker. Kellen Moore feels more like a designer/architect-minded. I'm not convinced he can run a locker room like Payton, who I felt convinced guys to get better every week. I think Kellen Moore will be ...

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Old 06-29-2025, 09:05 PM   #11
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Sean was philosophical and a thinker. Kellen Moore feels more like a designer/architect-minded. I'm not convinced he can run a locker room like Payton, who I felt convinced guys to get better every week. I think Kellen Moore will be a creative play schemer, though. Kellen Moore's biggest challenge will come from his ability to handle the locker room. If he can do that, he will succeed. There is only one Sean Payton. I've thought for a while that Sean is the best coach in the NFL. Now that he's pushing a horrible Denver team into places it shouldn't be, people are seeing how great he is. Moore will never be Payton, you can keep dreaming on that. Can Kellen Moore win? I think he can, but it's no guarantee. And as I said, I think his biggest attribute is as an architect. Let's see how he builds and designs.
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Old 06-30-2025, 06:49 AM   #12
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Re: Is Kellen Moore Already Proving He Is the Next Sean Payton?

His floor is Adam Gase (well maybe a little higher considering Moore did win a Super Bowl as OC)

His ceiling is Sean McVay

I think the most likely outcome is he is like Mike McDaniel - runs a high-octane offense but he's just a different guy and it feels hard to decipher if he is really a good head coach.
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Sean was philosophical and a thinker. Kellen Moore feels more like a designer/architect-minded. I'm not convinced he can run a locker room like Payton, who I felt convinced guys to get better every week. I think Kellen Moore will be a creative play schemer, though. Kellen Moore's biggest challenge will come from his ability to handle the locker room. If he can do that, he will succeed. There is only one Sean Payton. I've thought for a while that Sean is the best coach in the NFL. Now that he's pushing a horrible Denver team into places it shouldn't be, people are seeing how great he is. Moore will never be Payton, you can keep dreaming on that. Can Kellen Moore win? I think he can, but it's no guarantee. And as I said, I think his biggest attribute is as an architect. Let's see how he builds and designs.
What confuses me, is Payton doing well with that Denver squad, yet failed to field even a mediocre defense for years, to get a generational QB a 2nd ring.
Brees literally guaranteed at least 7-10 wins per year on his own, Payton just needed to field a defense to get another 3 or 4 and couldn't do it.
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What confuses me, is Payton doing well with that Denver squad, yet failed to field even a mediocre defense for years, to get a generational QB a 2nd ring.
Brees literally guaranteed at least 7-10 wins per year on his own, Payton just needed to field a defense to get another 3 or 4 and couldn't do it.
The jury is still out on that.
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Old 07-01-2025, 03:15 PM   #15
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What confuses me, is Payton doing well with that Denver squad, yet failed to field even a mediocre defense for years, to get a generational QB a 2nd ring.
Brees literally guaranteed at least 7-10 wins per year on his own, Payton just needed to field a defense to get another 3 or 4 and couldn't do it.

The biggest change we got to our defense was when we got Jeff Ireland. We drafted some good players who went to other places and were successful before this, but that happens to every team. I just don't think we had great overall talent on defense. Hiring Rob Ryan was a mistake. Getting rid of Spags so early was a mistake. There are just a lot of variables. Sean's suspension created more chaos than people realize, which is why he attempted to start fresh when he returned. Payton was the head coach so he's not exempt from blame, but we had a ton of revolving doors, and it felt like we could never find stability on the defensive side until Allen and Nolan.
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Old 07-01-2025, 10:24 PM   #16
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Pretty sure “proving” requires coaching games.
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