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Collusion-Gate: The Secret Texts and Testimony of NFL Owners and Superstar QBs, Revealed

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Are agents colluding to secure guaranteed money for second round picks? Are scouts discussing player evaluations colluding to prevent a player from going round 1? Are players holding out for new contracts in the middle of their current contract colluding?...

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Old 06-30-2025, 06:24 AM   #11
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Re: Collusion-Gate: The Secret Texts and Testimony of NFL Owners and Superstar QBs, Revealed

Are agents colluding to secure guaranteed money for second round picks?

Are scouts discussing player evaluations colluding to prevent a player from going round 1?

Are players holding out for new contracts in the middle of their current contract colluding?
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Old 06-30-2025, 08:06 AM   #12
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Re: Collusion-Gate: The Secret Texts and Testimony of NFL Owners and Superstar QBs, Revealed

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Are agents colluding to secure guaranteed money for second round picks?
Not in any illegal sense. Working together to form a united front is not against the law. The agents are not doing anything in "secret" nor are they trying to "cheat or deceive others".

Are scouts discussing player evaluations colluding to prevent a player from going round 1?
This has always been a common practice. Shady or unethical? Possibly so, but doesn't fit the definition of collusion at all.

Are players holding out for new contracts in the middle of their current contract colluding?
That is simply a negotiating ploy. The teams commonly ask players to reduce their pay in the middle of contracts. Quid pro quo. Nothing here implies any sort of illegal collusion.

As I mentioned earlier, the legal analyst that appeared on NFL radio discussing this suit read the whole week's worth of testimony, as well as the ruling by the independent arbiter (ruling no illegal collusion was evident). He stated that there were indeed things that had bad optics (owners thanking other owners for not doing a veteran fully guaranteed contract, etcetera), but nothing came close to satisfying the definition of any sort of illegal collusion.

The NFL is first and foremost a business. A huge business. We all know that businesses can be cutthroat and otherwise unseemly. And, yes, sometimes even illegal. But not in this case.

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