Collusion-Gate: The Secret Texts and Testimony of NFL Owners and Superstar QBs, Revealed

BakoSaint · 07-07-2025, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

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Merriam-Webster
Collusion - secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose.

Just because the public does not know, does not make it a secrete or illegal. Also, lets not forget that everyone but the agents are employees of the same company.

Discussing the avoidance of fully guaranteed contracts as a general policy within the same company is a far stretch from collusion. The NFLPA wants to frame it as collusion because they want their players to get guaranteed contracts but no one else is concerned.

Lord knows how poorly players have performed after that big guaranteed payout. No guarantee is better for competition.

Legally, the problem is that it is not one company with legitimate outside competitors, it is 32 separate companies that work together to reduce outside competition. That is like if Walmart, Target, Kohls, Home Depot, Lowes, Dollar General, Rite Aid, CVS, Walgreens, Dollar Tree, etc all got together and discussed the importance of none offering sick leave. They are supposed to compete, in theory, and in return for the degree to which they don't (like the salary cap) it is supposed to be negotiated with the players.

But alas, as a fan, guaranteed contracts are not my problem. The salary cap is my problem, because without it, the Super Bowl is LA vs NY most years, or other big markets, and we are the Drays or something.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,425	Re: Collusion-Gate: The Secret Texts and Testimony of NFL Owners and Superstar QBs, Revealed Originally Posted by TheOak Devils Advocate Merriam-Webster Collusion - secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose. Just because the public does not know, does not make it a secrete or illegal. Also, lets not forget that everyone but the agents are employees of the same company. Discussing the avoidance of fully guaranteed contracts as a general policy within the same company is a far stretch from collusion. The NFLPA wants to frame it as collusion because they want their players to get guaranteed contracts but no one else is concerned. Lord knows how poorly players have performed after that big guaranteed payout. No guarantee is better for competition. Legally, the problem is that it is not one company with legitimate outside competitors, it is 32 separate companies that work together to reduce outside competition. That is like if Walmart, Target, Kohls, Home Depot, Lowes, Dollar General, Rite Aid, CVS, Walgreens, Dollar Tree, etc all got together and discussed the importance of none offering sick leave. They are supposed to compete, in theory, and in return for the degree to which they don't (like the salary cap) it is supposed to be negotiated with the players. But alas, as a fan, guaranteed contracts are not my problem. The salary cap is my problem, because without it, the Super Bowl is LA vs NY most years, or other big markets, and we are the Drays or something. SmashMouth likes this.
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