Week One Preseason: Saints @ Chargers

AsylumGuido · 08-05-2025, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Rattler won't start game 1 of live football because it's simply "his turn".

It means he's won the coaches trust over Shough.

I agree "how they handle" will be paramount, but this wasn't a casual decision.

By "live football" I meant preseason game one. Now if the same player that started game one also starts game two then that does mean something. Today's camp is Rattler's turn run the ones. Let's see if they keep any rotation going. If Shough runs the first team today does that mean he's been declared the winner of the competition? No. It really means little until the regular season starter is explicitly named or one player consistently begins running with the ones in camp.

saintsfan1976 · 08-05-2025, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

By "live football" I meant preseason game one. Now if the same player that started game one also starts game two then that does mean something. Today's camp is Rattler's turn run the ones. Let's see if they keep any rotation going. If Shough runs the first team today does that mean he's been declared the winner of the competition? No. It really means little until the regular season starter is explicitly named or one player consistently begins running with the ones in camp.

Camp is used to determine pecking order. By the first preseason game the order is most likely decided and up to the starter to lose. I do expect both to play a significant amount of snaps in pre season game 1 and out of that should be a clear winner.

Shough may run first team today but again I think the preseason starter will be our regular season starter barring injury.

Keep in mind they only play 3 preseason games so while coach may rotate in game 2, the significance of who starts game 1 is not coincidental.

keithday123 · 08-04-2025, 07:40 PM

I will have much more faith in Moore if he starts Rattler. Tells me he’s not afraid to go against “his guy” for the betterment of the team. It would be a different story if camp competition was closer, but everything I’m reading from the local media says Rattler is having a better camp.

SmashMouth · 08-05-2025, 07:23 AM

Don't we need two preseason games worth to make a better determination on who's going to start? CKM said he was close, however, in a recent interview, FWIW. We don't have a clue yet as fans as to how the plays are being executed as the coaches want them to be.

iceshack149 · 08-05-2025, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Don't we need two preseason games worth to make a better determination on who's going to start? CKM said he was close, however, in a recent interview, FWIW. We don't have a clue yet as fans as to how the plays are being executed as the coaches want them to be.

To clarify, I meant to ask which QB starts this weekend. That said, the battle for the QB to start the season really does seem to be down to Rattler and Shough and from what I'm reading, Rattler apparently is in the lead.

AsylumGuido · 08-05-2025, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

To clarify, I meant to ask which QB starts this weekend. That said, the battle for the QB to start the season really does seem to be down to Rattler and Shough and from what I'm reading, Rattler apparently is in the lead.

Apparently Rattler is with the ones again today. I read that's twice in a row. I had thought Shough was with the ones on Sunday, but I guess I was mistaken. That leads me to believe he's getting the first preseason start. But that all changes if Shough goes with the ones again tomorrow.

AsylumGuido · 08-05-2025, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Apparently Rattler is with the ones again today. I read that's twice in a row. I had thought Shough was with the ones on Sunday, but I guess I was mistaken. That leads me to believe he's getting the first preseason start. But that all changes if Shough goes with the ones again tomorrow.

Well, now they are saying both QB's worked with the ones today. Friday is supposed to be another scrimmage with 126 proposed snaps. Maybe will have a better idea of Sunday's starter after that.

AsylumGuido · 08-05-2025, 11:45 AM

K Major · 08-05-2025, 11:48 AM

QB battle will be noteworthy however keep an eye on the RBs not named Kamara.

Last year Underhill stated (Podcast) a few times how Kendre Miller not being on the same page pre snap (probably why he had limited reps when healthy). Fast forward to Day 5 of this year's camp, read he forced a timeout due to line up issues.

Keep an eye on Akers, Velus & Yarns.

Devin Neal will be out for a few weeks.

jnormand · 08-05-2025, 12:48 PM

Saw that about Neal. Was looking fwd to seeing him work. Dang!

08-05-2025, 07:49 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,854	Re: Week One Preseason: Saints @ Chargers Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Rattler won't start game 1 of live football because it's simply "his turn". It means he's won the coaches trust over Shough. I agree "how they handle" will be paramount, but this wasn't a casual decision. By "live football" I meant preseason game one. Now if the same player that started game one also starts game two then that does mean something. Today's camp is Rattler's turn run the ones. Let's see if they keep any rotation going. If Shough runs the first team today does that mean he's been declared the winner of the competition? No. It really means little until the regular season starter is explicitly named or one player consistently begins running with the ones in camp.

08-05-2025, 10:44 AM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,082 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Week One Preseason: Saints @ Chargers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido By "live football" I meant preseason game one. Now if the same player that started game one also starts game two then that does mean something. Today's camp is Rattler's turn run the ones. Let's see if they keep any rotation going. If Shough runs the first team today does that mean he's been declared the winner of the competition? No. It really means little until the regular season starter is explicitly named or one player consistently begins running with the ones in camp. Camp is used to determine pecking order. By the first preseason game the order is most likely decided and up to the starter to lose. I do expect both to play a significant amount of snaps in pre season game 1 and out of that should be a clear winner. Shough may run first team today but again I think the preseason starter will be our regular season starter barring injury. Keep in mind they only play 3 preseason games so while coach may rotate in game 2, the significance of who starts game 1 is not coincidental.

08-04-2025, 07:40 PM	#3
keithday123 Texasaint Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 209	Re: Week One Preseason: Saints @ Chargers I will have much more faith in Moore if he starts Rattler. Tells me he’s not afraid to go against “his guy” for the betterment of the team. It would be a different story if camp competition was closer, but everything I’m reading from the local media says Rattler is having a better camp. stickman likes this.
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08-05-2025, 07:23 AM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,138 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Week One Preseason: Saints @ Chargers Don't we need two preseason games worth to make a better determination on who's going to start? CKM said he was close, however, in a recent interview, FWIW. We don't have a clue yet as fans as to how the plays are being executed as the coaches want them to be.

08-05-2025, 09:55 AM	#5
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,458 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Week One Preseason: Saints @ Chargers Originally Posted by SmashMouth Don't we need two preseason games worth to make a better determination on who's going to start? CKM said he was close, however, in a recent interview, FWIW. We don't have a clue yet as fans as to how the plays are being executed as the coaches want them to be. To clarify, I meant to ask which QB starts this weekend. That said, the battle for the QB to start the season really does seem to be down to Rattler and Shough and from what I'm reading, Rattler apparently is in the lead.

08-05-2025, 10:07 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,854	Re: Week One Preseason: Saints @ Chargers Originally Posted by iceshack149 To clarify, I meant to ask which QB starts this weekend. That said, the battle for the QB to start the season really does seem to be down to Rattler and Shough and from what I'm reading, Rattler apparently is in the lead. Apparently Rattler is with the ones again today. I read that's twice in a row. I had thought Shough was with the ones on Sunday, but I guess I was mistaken. That leads me to believe he's getting the first preseason start. But that all changes if Shough goes with the ones again tomorrow.

08-05-2025, 11:43 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,854	Re: Week One Preseason: Saints @ Chargers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Apparently Rattler is with the ones again today. I read that's twice in a row. I had thought Shough was with the ones on Sunday, but I guess I was mistaken. That leads me to believe he's getting the first preseason start. But that all changes if Shough goes with the ones again tomorrow. Well, now they are saying both QB's worked with the ones today. Friday is supposed to be another scrimmage with 126 proposed snaps. Maybe will have a better idea of Sunday's starter after that.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,868 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Week One Preseason: Saints @ Chargers QB battle will be noteworthy however keep an eye on the RBs not named Kamara. Last year Underhill stated (Podcast) a few times how Kendre Miller not being on the same page pre snap (probably why he had limited reps when healthy). Fast forward to Day 5 of this year's camp, read he forced a timeout due to line up issues. Keep an eye on Akers, Velus & Yarns. Devin Neal will be out for a few weeks.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,790	Re: Week One Preseason: Saints @ Chargers Saw that about Neal. Was looking fwd to seeing him work. Dang!