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dizzle88 08-10-2025 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1011108)
He had him. Great route by Austin.

I liked that Shough realized he had to put speed on the ball to negate the safety closing but just out of reach

dizzle88 08-10-2025 04:32 PM

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Okay Shough, nice string of completions

The Dude 08-10-2025 04:34 PM

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Gamer or Adrian Arrington?

dizzle88 08-10-2025 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 1011111)
Gamer or Adrian Arrington?

Lol Adrian Arrington, that dude had me fooled for a long time

dizzle88 08-10-2025 04:36 PM

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Shough had bub means if he threw a bullet as means was breaking left

Took too long to see it

arsaint 08-10-2025 04:38 PM

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Aw shucks...

Personally I think the rookie showed a lot more to build on in that drive than anything Rattler did.

Just my 2 cents

rezburna 08-10-2025 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 1011113)
Shough had bub means if he threw a bullet as means was breaking left

Took too long to see it

You know what our problem is, bruh?

SmashMouth 08-10-2025 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1011104)
They put Rattler out there with the same lack of weapons that we complained about last year, so why wouldn't it look similar? Cedric Wilson? Dante Pettis? Bub Means? Miller averaging 2.5 yards a carry? No Erik McCoy? We all saw the difference in the team when McCoy is starting and when he's not. You gotta contextualize how you evaluate these preseason games.

Same type of personnel for Shough so far.

He appears to read/execute faster . Let's see with a bigger sample size in the 3rd quarter .

arsaint 08-10-2025 04:42 PM

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Agree. Right now I feel better with Shough under center. See if he can keep it up in 3rd...

SmashMouth 08-10-2025 04:43 PM

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Looking back, Rattler had Miller wide open for a TD if he leads him rather than try to run it in .

rezburna 08-10-2025 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1011116)
Same type of personnel for Shough so far.

He appears to read/execute faster . Let's see with a bigger sample size in the 3rd quarter .

I think Moore needs to just let Shough be the starter. He was willing to take him in the 2nd round. He fits the mold he's looking for. He didn't draft Rattler. Just start your guy. There was no reason to not let Rattler run that two minute drill and rack up those completions and yards while the defense was playing off. Again, you have to contextualize the situations. We often see teams rack up yards in a two minute drill. The defense is trying not to give up the big play.

dizzle88 08-10-2025 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1011115)
You know what our problem is, bruh?

Not sure I follow sorry?

arsaint 08-10-2025 04:46 PM

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We get the ball first so we’ll see what Shough has in the first couple of drives.

Does he make some plays or is it a 3 & out fest?

Hopefully the former...

SmashMouth 08-10-2025 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1011119)
I think Moore needs to just let Shough be the starter. He was willing to take him in the 2nd round. He fits the mold he's looking for. He didn't draft Rattler. Just start your guy. There was no reason to not let Rattler run that two minute drill and rack up those completions and yards while the defense was playing off. Again, you have to contextualize the situations. We often see teams rack up yards in a two minute drill. The defense is trying not to give up the big play.

Valid point... But I had that flashback where he could have scored a TD with Miller in the end zone trailing across.

rezburna 08-10-2025 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1011122)
Valid point... But I had that flashback where he could have scored a TD with Miller in the end zone trailing across.

That missed pass to Austin could have been a TD too.

When watching Shough in college I didn't find him to be particularly accurate.

I'm excited to see this second half. I see the the flashes though. I know what they're hoping for ceiling wise.

arsaint 08-10-2025 04:55 PM

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Yeah that is not what I hoped to see drive 1

dizzle88 08-10-2025 04:55 PM

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These routes the receivers are running are so unimaginative.

3 curl routes on 3rd down whilst Shough dodges blitzes.

SmashMouth 08-10-2025 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1011123)
That missed pass to Austin could have been a TD too.

When watching Shough in college I didn't find him to be particularly accurate.

I'm excited to see this second half. I see the the flashes though. I know what they're hoping for ceiling wise.

Agreed.

Nobody was open on that last play.

4everSaint 08-10-2025 04:56 PM

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God dang. It really doesn’t matter who we have at QB. These guys are terrible.

Halo 08-10-2025 04:57 PM

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Womp womp on that first drive.
It like some twists and blitzes our offensive line cannot stop.
Pocket collapses instantly.

Oh well.

SmashMouth 08-10-2025 05:00 PM

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Who is this Stallbird kid... Safety ?

SmashMouth 08-10-2025 05:04 PM

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Real bad read by Shough. Can't have that.

dizzle88 08-10-2025 05:04 PM

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Wow

rezburna 08-10-2025 05:05 PM

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Yeah...I'm not going to say it...but y'all know what I want to say...you already know what I want to say Smash...

dizzle88 08-10-2025 05:05 PM

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Okay, neither of these QBs are the guy then.

Seasons done

4everSaint 08-10-2025 05:06 PM

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There is no QB on this roster that is “The Guy”.

dizzle88 08-10-2025 05:06 PM

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Notice how much better others teams backups look, compared to ours.

Pick 6 on someone that's trying to be QB1

subguy 08-10-2025 05:06 PM

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Ww are going to struggle at quarterback all year long. That was a very nice defensive play but I still believe we're going to struggle a quarterback all year long

arsaint 08-10-2025 05:07 PM

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Folks this team is going to be BAD.

(Sure hope someone tells me how wrong I am mid-season)

SmashMouth 08-10-2025 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1011132)
Yeah...I'm not going to say it...but y'all know what I want to say...you already know what I want to say Smash...

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Originally Posted by 4everSaint (Post 1011134)
There is no QB on this roster that is “The Guy”.

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 1011135)
Notice how much better others teams backups look, compared to ours.

Lance has looked the best . But he's been around longer . Shough stared his WR down all the way. Not good.

4everSaint 08-10-2025 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 1011136)
Ww are going to struggle at quarterback all year long. That was a very nice defensive play but I still believe we're going to struggle a quarterback all year long

No doubt. Gonna be a long season. Interesting I’m sure. But long.

arsaint 08-10-2025 05:10 PM

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Win total odds will be dropping for season.

More injuries. More penalties. SOS

rezburna 08-10-2025 05:12 PM

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I'm not ready to hit the panic button, but we should have take Shedeur Sanders, Will Johnson, or Tate Ratledge with that 2nd rounder. This team will continue to struggle until we can get high level guard play. This is why we can't run the ball. We get no push whatsoever.

rezburna 08-10-2025 05:14 PM

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Like that RPO Bubble

rezburna 08-10-2025 05:14 PM

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Uh oh. That was a beautiful throw.

dizzle88 08-10-2025 05:15 PM

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Okay nice bounce back Shough

SmashMouth 08-10-2025 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1011142)
I'm not ready to hit the panic button, but we should have take Shedeur Sanders, Will Johnson, or Tate Ratledge with that 2nd rounder. This team will continue to struggle until we can get high level guard play. This is why we can't run the ball. We get no push whatsoever.

We do need to run way better.

The Dude 08-10-2025 05:16 PM

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I like it. I really want to dislike this guy.

arsaint 08-10-2025 05:17 PM

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None of these guys are Drew Brees but I think Shough may need the 1st team snaps this week.

It’s not a slam dunk at this point, but I think he has a little more upside.

rezburna 08-10-2025 05:18 PM

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Shough reminds me of Josh Allen. Josh Allen ceiling.


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