Does anyone remember who...
 

...it was that was saying that Smith wasn't the #1 receiver in Carolina, while Muhammad was there? I think it was during the preseason, tried to do a search, but it's not working. :(

RE: Does anyone remember who...
 

That is a Billyesque point .

Try Gambler .

Trust me, that was Billy. I know, cause I had the argument with him when I was laying out all the people who got hurt for Carolina, and Jake still having a better year than AB. When I said Smith, he said Smith was not a number one anyway, Muhammed was. I laughed then, and I am laughing even harder now.

BlackonBlack = Billy

Gotta be

One day you truly will stop embarrassing yourself, and actually say something that is correct, and shock us all.

2003: Steve Smith - 88 catches 1100 yards 7 TDs

2003: Muhsin Muhammed - 54 catches 837 yards 3 TDs.

Who was the number one again? Please stop embarrassing yourself in EVERY thread.

And lynwood, I think you are right.

one name Reggie Bush. He's doing it all for USC. You put your best player in the positions that will help your team best.

Cause prior to 2003 he wasn't the number one receiver. :stupid:

Just to make yourself look even sillier, go look at Muhammed's numbers from 2002 also. He wasn't even a number one receiver then. He has only had one or two good years, and that was like 3-5 years ago. Your lack of knowledge is just getting apalling.

Hopefully the Saints.

Many NFL teams pick their "speed" guy to run back kicks. The "speed" guys are not typically the #1 receiver. I doubt Horn is quicker than Stallworth. Michael Lewis had his job because of his speed.

I remember being a big part of that thread... I believe we pulled up a crap load of stats proving Smith was the number one receiver there. I can't remember who was debating against us though. Before Muhammad had that big year last season... the previous 2 or 3 seasons Smith had better numbers than Muhammad. That case was closed during the offseason... :wink:

Re: RE: Does anyone remember who...
 

Try again. There's absolutely no reason to bring my name into this. I didn't get into any debate over Steve Smith, because I RARELY, if ever, get into heated debates over players unless it is someone from my favorite team. Since the Carolina Panthers are not my favorite team, and since Steve Smith doesn't play for the Saints, you can rest assured that my interest in debating his worth is about as high as watching paint dry.

In fact, if this thread had been entitled "Steve Smith", then I woudln't have even clicked on it. But since it wasn't, here I am..

RE: Re: RE: Does anyone remember who...
 

..just for the record, Smith is returning punts this season for the Panthers...

Just for the record, why do so many people give a **** about Steve Smith?

:stupid:

Please just go away. This is not fair anymore. I am no longer gonna get into a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed.

Saintswhodi, I stopped ignoring your posts just so I could see if BlackOnBlack was provoking you, or if it was the other way around. My conclusion is that you are just as bad as he is, with all the constant jabs back and forth, and insulting his intelligence. I used to think it was just the Aaron/Jake debate that caused you both to bring out the worst in each other, but now I realize that you 2 are like an old married couple. You both simply love to argue. Whether it's arguing over the Saints Defense, saints O-line, Saints QB situation, or even STEVE FREAKIN SMITH, there is simply no football related topic that can be discussed in a civil manner between the both of you.

I'd almost bet my life savings that one of you voted for Bush, and the other voted for Kerry....

Actually I believe I'm wrong. SaintsWhodi is not "just as bad" as BlackOnBlack...............he's probably worse!

Here's some fun facts, involving this thread:


To which BlackOnBlack replied:


I don’t see any personal shots in this thread at all.

SW replied with:


That looks like personal shots, but I’m gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and only count it as a “borderline flame�.

Score- SaintsWhodi: 3 Borderline flames (the 2 “embarrassing yourself� statements, and the “say something correct and shock us all� statement)

BlackOnBlack: 0


BlackOnBlack replied with:

No personal shots whatsoever.

SW replied with:

More borderline flames, although one really should be counted as a personal shot.

Score: SaintsWhodi: 5 Borderline flames

BlackOnBlack: 0

BlackonBlack replied with:

A very weak borderline flame. But a borderline flame nonetheless.

Score: SaintsWhodi: 5 Borderline Flames

BlackOnBlack: 1 borderline flame

SaintsWhodi replied with:

Personal shot.

Score: SaintsWhodi: 5 borderline flames, 1 personal shot

BlackOnBlack: 1 borderline flame


The moderators of this forum should really consider keeping an eye on this sort of thing.....

Sad. So the liar is back? I could go through all the other threads and post blackonblack's constant flaming of not just me, but ANYONE who disagrees with him, but what's the point? You think you proved something? Only that you still lie. Please don't try to make it seem like Black on black is some innocent poster I am making comments to for no reason, oh, but then you would wouldn't you? Liars don't tell the truth. It was better when you ignored me and your ability to avoid the truth wasn't so obvious. This seems a little soon to be never having to speak to me again.

But just for fun, let's play your game. ALL these comments came before mine around the board:


I'll just stop there. I didn't even have to dig out all the "Jake is your boyfriend" posts, cause the ones I posted here weren't all even directed to me. I don't know what you just tried to prove, beyond that fact that every word you say is a lie, but it failed. Miserably. Go back to ignoring me please. You add nothing when you speak to me except lies to prove poor points.

See that's your problem. Something that happened in another thread should not carry over into new ones.

When did I say he was completely innocent? I'm fully aware of what I used to read between you and him, and it was all a bunch of useless insulting crap.

I showed proof that IN THIS THREAD, you borderline flamed him 3 times before he finally flamed you. And I stand by the fact that the moderators need to keep their eyes on that sort of thing. Your only defense seems to be WELL HE USED TO FLAME ME BEFORE.

Do not call me a liar unless you have some sort of substance to back it up. It's hard to be a liar when I was simply going on everything I saw in this particular thread. You said BlackOnBlack embarrassed himself with stuff? Well you are embarrassing yourself by calling me a liar.


By the way......how could I have ever implied he was an innocent victim when I made THIS post earlier:

In that post, I siad you were both equally as bad. Then I recinded and said you were worse. Nowhere does that imply that he's an innocent victim.

Tell me, does that make you a liar?

Yes, I am embarrassing myself. Mr. "I am putting you on ignore so I never have to speak to you again", and is speaking to me again. That's called a lie, yet another one. What world do you live in that what someone says to you in one thread doesn't carry into another? Dude, go lie elsewhere. Noone cares what you think SHOULDN'T happen. As a matter of fact, in the thread where he called everyone girls, I made it a point not to flame him. I even posted that point. But everyone has a limit. Go away. You add nothing but lies and fights.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA..

Didn't you tell me i was going on iggy when I first got here? never happened, LIAR!!

I did put you on iggy, and as i stated, i checked becasue I wanted to see the cause of all the bickering. I found my answer.

Please do not ever type anything alluding to someone else starting a fight on here....EVER AGAIN. That's like Greg Louganis calling someone a fag.

By the way, I'm glad you referred me to that "Lady" thread by BlackonBlack, because it showed me this little gem:


Euphoria mentions nothing whatsoever about Aaron Brooks, nor does he say anything remotely insulting to anyone. Also, he wasn't even talking to you. However, you reply with:


What simply started as his opinion on our offensive line basically turned into an accusation from yourself that he was defending Brooks. "Dude give it up" "No one's buying your excuses".

You seem to live in this world where you should be allowed to talk to anyone in any manner that you please, and there will never be a problem unless they fire back at you.

I can't believe you see nothing wrong with anything you ever do.

Now you use derogaroty terms about homosexuals? Are you serious? And your arguments have been, "Well, I was gonna put you on ignore but you said before you would do it months ago and you didn't" AND "well, you called me a liar so I am gonna call you one?" Really? Are you in third grade? Aaron Brooks rape fantasies, derogatory remarks about homosexuals, and repeating what is said to you? PUT ME ON IGNORE AND KEEP IT THAT WAY. Or are you saying you are so nosey you have to see what I am saying? Do you live on my words that much? REPEATING: PUT ME ON IGNORE AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT I SAY AND/OR WHO I SAY IT TO. STICK BY YOUR WORD THIS TIME AND TRY NOT TO LIE. PUT ME ON IGNORE. But you can't, cause you are obsessed with talking to me. It was eating you up not being able to post to me all this time. I had gone on with my posting without even a second thought about you. I forgot you were even on here. Sad. PUT ME ON IGNORE. And at least be honest about it and do it this time.

Don't twist words. I DID put you on ignore. I took you off.

Now back to the subject at hand, I just pointed out a typical post of yours, where you confront someone in a rather hostile manner when they didn't deserve it at all. Defend your actions.

And last, why do you care what I say to anyone? Why is that your business? You are trying to defend black, and he has insulted any and everyone who disagrees with him, and obviously you can't read, cause Euph has been defending Brooks for weeks now. Weeks. He has been using a poor offesnive line as justification for Brooks play for this season. You have an apparent inability to put two and two together at ANY time. But here's no lie. Unlike you, I won't waste my time attempting to defend myself to you, a person who repeatedly lies, uses derogatory terms and inapproriate graphic comments to get their points across. Trust me, I won't EVER said another word to you. It's not worth it, and you aren't worth the time.

Look at it from this perspective:

You say Euphoria has been justifying Brooks's play at all costs for WEEKS. He could say that you've bashed Brooks's play for weeks.

So let's say, hypothetically, that Brooks threw an interception which appeared to be a WR's fault. And let's say you immediately bashed Brooks for that interception, in a post directed towards no one in particular. What if Euphoria jumped in and said DUDE GIVE IT UP, IT WAS THE WR'S FAULT, YOU'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A REASON TO BASH BROOKS".

You'd probably take that as a personal shot, and justifiably so. So why is it suddenly ok for you to do the same thing to him? Especially since he NEVER MENTIONED BROOKS'S NAME AT ALL IN HIS POST.

And another thing: you ask why do I care what you say? Because i'm pretty sure it's against the rules to speak to folks in a derrogatory manner. I know this beacuse i was warned about it when I first got here. It's annoying to have to read, and all it does is start pointless tirades between you and BlackOnBlack. If you see some of my posts from before, I even told B on B myself to cool it with the Jake-talk. And while I don't have time to search for the post since it was well over a month ago, I even told him one of his posts toward you was uncalled for. But in the last few posts I've read, I think I can see that he's certainly not the only one. This thread is a great example, as i pointed out with my scorecard.

Who cares?

Locked

Thanks for keeping my record of consecutive weeks of locking a thread going.