Carney....
 

Needs to be fired. This guy is awful. How many momentum-shifting kicks can this guy miss. He's absolutely awful

RE: Carney....
 

We should have cut him last year after the River City miss.

RE: Carney....
 

It may be time for him to retire, agreed. Missing a 30 yard chip shot in the NFL could mean the end of your career,

RE: Carney....
 

I'm so proud of you BlackonBlack... a whole post without talking about Brooks or Jake. And to top it off... I absolutely agree with you! :pink: :broccoli: :cheering:

RE: Carney....
 

gOTTA GO......start lookin at NFL Europe..NCAA....ALBERTSONS...
anybody is better than this dude....used to defend him.........no more.
sucks....move on ..........next.

RE: Carney....
 

While we're at it, Conwell needs to be axed as well. Since he's missed the last few games with a yeast infection, we've finally gotten a chance to see Hilton in an extended role. Conwell and Carney have ruined many a sunday for me in the past few years. We should have had a public amputation of Carney's right foot after he missed the extra point in Jacksonville. And don't get me started with Conwell. I have despised Conwell since he left the saints game early to go eat at Bella Luna after he hurt his leg.

RE: Carney....
 

I now agree. I've defended him long enough. The special teams unit is absolutey horrible. The snaps have been sub-par. With all that said, he's getting old and he's still missing some that he should make. He's no longer in his prime anymore. I wouldn't keep him any longer than 1 more year.

RE: Carney....
 

YES FINALLY PPL SEE HOW BAD HE SUCKS !!!!!

RE: Carney....
 

Is Morten Anderson still out there? He was playing for someone last year wasn't he?

What a shame. I remember the Saints calling him a has-been in 1994 and cut him. Jim Miller... after Finks retired and passed away... in one year Miller dismantled the entire team, then he left. I think he was a spy for Atlanta.

I have to agree with everyone that it is time for us to replace Carney. It may not be easy, however, to find someone that can bang 'em through consistently. I, too, wonder why we let Morten go, but when I think about it he was making a lot of money for a kicker, and I'm sure that probably had a lot to do with the decision. I would have been willing to find a way to hang on to him, but, alas, I am not calling any shots for them.

Carney has had a great career, but age is catching up with him. However, in his defense, I would like to say that just as AB is not soley responsible for the Saints' woes, neither is Carney. Some of those critical misses may not have been so critical if we were more successful in the red zone than we have been. Our lack of success has been a collective accomplishment by all of the players.

In closing, I would like to revisit the miss in Jacksonville that everyone can't seem to forget. It was disappointing, to be sure, that we were not able to make that kick and get a shot at OT, but it really did not cost us anything as far as playoffs are concerned. Like I posted before, I seem to remember that within minutes before he missed that kick, we got a score from another game that eliminated us from playoff contention. I may be mistaken about that, and it may have been later on in the day when that happened. At any rate, it is just another example of us making a desparate attempt at the last moment to pull off a season saving victory, when in reality we should have taken care of business long before that game and none of us would have been praying for a last second mini-miracle. It was just another of a long list of failures that have been the trademark of the Saints.

You're right. In all actuality, we were eliminated from playoff contention the prior week in that 14-7 (i think?) loss to Tampa Bay. I've defended Brooks, but I can honestly say that he and only he cost us that Tampa Bay game. Every time we'd get down in scoring position, he'd ****ing mishandle the snap or the ball would drop from his hands.

But anyway, back to your original statement.....yes we had some sliver of a chance heading into the Jacksonville game that relied on a couple of scenerios happening......and if I'm remembering right, one of them involved Arizona beating Seattle that day (Seattle had to lose the remainder of their games for us to get in). Seattle wound up beating Arizona with no problem. I will double check to make sure.

Keep in mind, though, the reason most people can't "let it go" has nothing to do with us losing out on our microscopic playoff hopes.............it had more to do with the fact that the Saints pulled off probably the greatest play in NFL history, and then a freakin extra point of all things kept us from sealing the deal. It's tough to accept, but we also have to remember that the extra point would have only tied the game...........we could have still lost in overtime, although I figure Jacksonville's heart was pretty much ripped out after that play.

YOu have to be in it to win it. At least you go into overtime you still have a fighting chance to win and a simple extra point after a play like that to get you a chance to win the game...

Just went back and confirmed: Yes, Seattle beat Arizona 28-10 that day, which knocked us out regardless of the Jacksonville outcome. However, the Tampa Bay game happened TWO WEEKS before the jacksonville game, not the week prior. The week prior was our romp over the Giants on ESPN.

Language, gentlemen, please.

Are you drunk? I don't see any foul language in any of thse posts in this thread.

I am not picking on TheGambler, but..:

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We've gotten a little loose lately.

Wow, I had no clue I'd even typed that. That's why I thought you were crazy at first, because I read through every post (except mine) and coudln't see any curse words. Guess I should have looked in my own.

Sorry for the comment asking if you were drunk.

I wonder if the Saints would have won that day, if it affected Jacksonville having a shot at the playoff. I can't even remember if they were a good team or a bad team that year...lol.
Anyway, the reason I'm wondering is because if I already knew that the playoffs were out of the question, then I'm sure they did, and letting the game go into overtime, at that point, could have only hurt them for a coupole of reasons. First, somebody could get a career-ending injury playing for nothing, or, we end up winning another game, thusly throwing us a little lower in the pecking order come draft day. You think they told him to shank it?