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progress 12-15-2005 05:22 PM

Pete Carroll / LA Saints / ESPN Insider Article
 
There is an ESPN insider article on the homepage right now that is supposed to discuss the saints and a possible move to LA with carroll as the coach....if anyone pays for the insider option could you please post the article?

pakowitz 12-15-2005 07:13 PM

RE: Pete Carroll / LA Saints / ESPN Insider Article
 
no that would be copyright infringement

ScottyRo 12-15-2005 10:05 PM

RE: Pete Carroll / LA Saints / ESPN Insider Article
 
Could anyone sum up the contents of the article (in your own words)?

Milians 12-15-2005 10:59 PM

RE: Pete Carroll / LA Saints / ESPN Insider Article
 
The article basically states that Benson is dead set on moving the team to san antonio, but the league wants no part of that. The nfl wants to gauge the interest level of the saints in louisiana and see if we can still support the team. Mort seems to think that the saints will eventually end up with pete carroll as their head coach in los angeles. He also mentions the possibility of the saints ending up with matt leinart in this year's draft. All speculation at this point.

BoudinSandwich 12-17-2005 09:30 AM

RE: Pete Carroll / LA Saints / ESPN Insider Article
 
Definately speculation. I can't see the Saints in Los Angeles within the next 2 years (atleast). I don't think we'll end up with Leinart either. Also, the only way the Saints will play in San Antonio is splitting the season up between Baton Rouge and San Antonio. They will not play their entire season in Texas.

Docoperater 12-19-2005 04:04 PM

RE: Pete Carroll / LA Saints / ESPN Insider Article
 
I think L.A. wants the Saints, but I don't think they want Benson.

saintswhodi 12-19-2005 04:36 PM

insider information is not allowed to be posted... it is illegal...

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insid...ris&id=2259927


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pakowitz

saintz08 12-19-2005 05:04 PM

Los Angeles is a busted market for the Saints ......

It is a p.r. manuever by the NFL front office , basically Los Angeles does not want the Saints and Anaheim does not want the p.r. problems .......

Anyone who buys into the Los Angeles Saints , let me know I have some ocean front property for you in Arizona ......

Euphoria 12-19-2005 05:56 PM

No way are the saints going to LA... NFL would like to move a team there but they want a new owner there not old blood. I think its more likely that there will be an expansion team in a few years, you also have to keep in mind that the NFL likes having LA in its negociations with others NFL cites in new stadiums ect. I mean "give us a new deal or will move to LA". How many teams have been mentioned using this tactic, SD, MN, Jack, NO...

saintswhodi 12-20-2005 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintswhodi
insider information is not allowed to be posted... it is illegal...

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insid...ris&id=2259927


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pakowitz

I have been posting Insider articles related to the Saints since last year's draft. Did it become illegal yesterday?

pakowitz 12-20-2005 05:04 PM

it has always been illegal to post articles that someone charges to view....

xan 12-20-2005 05:13 PM

It is not illegal to post quotes from the article as long as the source is cited, even if the source charges for viewing.

pakowitz 12-20-2005 05:28 PM

im not talkin about quotes im talkin about the complete article...

saintswhodi 12-20-2005 06:55 PM

Okay, so it's ONLY "illegal" if I post the whole thing. But I can post parts, as long as I cite ESPN Insider. Is that a fair enough description of this rule?

CheramieIII 12-20-2005 07:21 PM

"Fair is Fair, Billy Jean the movie.

xan 12-20-2005 07:32 PM

Yes, The same issues that online services face in copyrights are the same that newspapers, magazines and periodicals face. Portions, not complete articles, are allowed to be cited as long as the source is given. This does not mean that you can omit one word or letter and get away with publishing the bulk of the article; selective and specific references are allowed and supported by a large body of law.

Also, if I chose to pay for a service, I can give my password for access to another party for his/her viewing. It's just like passing the paper around once bought. That party just shouldn't copy the article. That would be wrong.

So who's going to give us the relevant passage?

pakowitz 12-21-2005 01:09 AM

ive discussed it with halo and he said he doesnt mind the posting of the insider information... as long as espn.com doesnt say anything about it...it is fine for now.... so go ahead... post all u want...

dont think that i was trying to be a ***** about this... i was just doing my job... even if no one else was saying anything about it....

saintswhodi 12-21-2005 08:39 AM

K.

xan 12-21-2005 12:20 PM

It would be wrong if B&G were charging for access to the site. Copyright law does allow the overwhelming majority of what this forum posts.

LordOfEntropy 12-24-2005 09:11 AM

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to post any, as well as just part of, copyrighted material from a pay site. It's ok to paraphrase, or sum up what they said, but to quote even snippets from one of those sites is illegal. That is, unless they give express consent for others to reproduce it. Which I seriously doubt they give....

It's been illegal all along.


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