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i think he falls b/c he is a lil small but the guy is for real.... most likely a 20-25ish guy in the first im guessing....

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Thats is why i put the surprise next to him. he is a natural on the field that can not be taught and he has to much national exposure. All he has done is prove he is a ball player game in and game out. we will see. I would love to see him in black and gold

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God i hate hearing collins name over and over. one year he is good (contract usually) the next three suxxxxxx

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We will only need one out of Collins. If we draft a QB in the second round and with AMAC's potential I don't think we will need much more than that. If we get Volek than he will be good for a while and the other QB's would only be back ups. Kitna could hang in for a couple at least.

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1st Volek, then kitna and if all else fails go with collins at least we will get a higher first round pick with him next year. That is the only up side i see with collins

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I am with the trade down crew. Hey we can pick up some more picks and get an A.J. Hawk plus an extra second and third pick. My justification for passing up on Leinart is that either we will improve sigificantly or if next year we are still horrible we will be in position to take Brady Quinn, who will be the next "can't miss" franchise QB.

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GO AJ hawk agree with you cheramieiii, we still need a good Qb though if Vince is there or bush thats a hard pick.

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Finally another Quinn supporter. Nice to see someone else looking at the big picture here. Thanks golden thumb. Watch him next year grow ! I have ND as the sleeper team next year. Top 5 finisher despite there brutal schedual.

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a sleeper team? they will most likely be ranked in the top 5 to start the season.....

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No they are not as of yet and a got in an debate at work and next thing i knew i put 200 on them to finish in the top 5.