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CheramieIII 01-29-2006 11:35 AM

Interesting story on Leinart!
 
LEINART TO SLIDE ON DRAFT DAY?

The whispers are starting to be heard on the information superhighway that is the NFL rumor mill.

Will USC quarterback Matt Leinart be this year's Aaron Rodgers?

In 2005, Rodgers was the latest over-hyped product of Cal quarterback guru Jeff Tedford. In February, many had Rodgers pegged possibly to go as high as the No. 1 overall selection in the draft. But the 49ers ultimately opted for Utah's Alex Smith in the one hole, leaving Rodgers on the board.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

BJSim 01-29-2006 12:02 PM

RE: Interesting story on Leinart!
 
It's amazing that people think Leinarts stock has fallen so far. Before the Combine in Indy. Before the private displays are even scheduled. Well if his stock has fallen so far, I guess we'll save ourselves a boatload of money and just pick him up with our second rounder.

LivnaLieTimay 01-29-2006 12:27 PM

RE: Interesting story on Leinart!
 
profootballtalk.com is to sports as the tabloids are to hollywood. They choose an athlete and find anything they can think of to bring that person down. Leinart has done nothing to show he isn't the best qb in the draft. People are so high on Cutler and he was horrible yesterday in the Senior bowl. Vince Young wasn't going to turn pro until he had one great game, and everyone loves both of these guys. Leinart had an amazing career and all people want to do is bring the guy down. As BJ said, we haven't even seen the combine workouts and people are digging up anything they can to crush this guy. And let's just say we don't take Leinart and neither do the Titans, there is NO WAY the jets and raiders both pass on him. This article cracks me up.

CheramieIII 01-29-2006 12:58 PM

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Hey Timay, I know that they just like to get crap started but I thought it was kinda interesting with Mortensen's comment of late.

TheDeuce 01-30-2006 08:25 PM

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Mortensen is an idiot. Leinart has proven for the last three seasons that he's the best QB in this draft. And another point, if Leinart hadn't gone back to school for his senior season, he would have been hands down the #1 selection in last year's draft. The QB pool in this year's draft is sooooooo much stronger than last year's.

GoldenTomb 01-30-2006 08:56 PM

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LoL well Mort is definitely not an idiot. I think he's proven that he is very reliable as far as scoops in the NFL go. You just hated what he had to say about Cutler.

Leinart's stock will be up again once the combine starts. And everyone's worries will be alleviated. The Saints will still pick Matt Leinart. Why am i the only calm one about this....lol

Euphoria 01-30-2006 09:26 PM

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His Stock has fallen since he didn't win the Rose Bowl... he showed he can't win game alone.

xan 01-30-2006 09:28 PM

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Hey, where have we heard the "Let's wait until the combine and individual workouts to get a clearer picture" concept before?

GoldenTomb 01-30-2006 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria
His Stock has fallen since he didn't win the Rose Bowl... he showed he can't win game alone.

Well it won't matter. You can't win games by yourself in the NFL anyway. Vince Young doesn't have the running ability that a Michael Vick has, and would be snapped in half if he tried to run like he did in college against an NFL defense where even the D-linemen have speed. I think it's been well estabilshed that you need to have great pocket passing skills to succeed in the NFL. He needs to develop more as a pocket passer, and Leinart's already there.

TheDeuce 01-30-2006 09:51 PM

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I think he's proven that he is very reliable as far as scoops in the NFL go. You just hated what he had to say about Cutler.
OK true. I'll concede this one. But although he's not an idiot, his stance on Cutler is absolutely idiotic.

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His Stock has fallen since he didn't win the Rose Bowl... he showed he can't win game alone.
Last time I checked, nobody in the history of the game of football has EVER won a football game ALONE. Nice try though. You think VY would have had the chance to even win the game if the UT defense hadn't stopped USC on a 4th and 1 run by LenDale White? No. Woulda been ballgame USC. Besides Euph, we've been over this a million times. Leinart had a damn good game too, 29-40 for 365 yards and a touchdown? Did Matt Leinart sexually assault your mom or something? Your girlfriend/wife, maybe? Why do you hate this guy so much?

Tobias-Reiper 01-31-2006 06:39 AM

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[quote="TheDeuce"]
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Did Matt Leinart sexually assault your mom or something? Your girlfriend/wife, maybe? Why do you hate this guy so much?
Why do you go down to this level? Can't you actually give your opinion and disagree with someone else like an adult?

Euphoria 01-31-2006 09:29 AM

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I'll help you answer that... because some people lack intelligence. Yeah anyone who ever watched the sport knows that there is more than one person on the field but the player that stood up and put the game on his shoulders and won the game was none other than V. Young. Say what you will but Leinart had more weapons around him and a Heisman RB and couldn't win the game. Young is a better passer than Vick also believe that if you didn't see the game or did some checking yourself.

xan 01-31-2006 09:54 AM

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I don't understand that last sentance, Euph...

yasoon 01-31-2006 10:13 AM

PFT is known for its drivel. I'll believe this when I see it.

Leinart is the most pro ready. Young is the most risk reward guy. Cutler stood out with the least around him and appears to be a very good pro prospect himself. All this is just talk to get us to the combine in APRIL, so let's not pretend to know too much in Feb.

We'll know if Leinart has small feet, big ears, bad breath....whatever: after the combine.

I have said since day one that Leinart kinda scares me, but I won't come out making emphatic statements of absolutes like some because we just don't know. He certainly played somethng closer to a pro offense than anyone else. (There are 2 sides to that...experience and lofty number aided by superior peripheral talent.)

I will be happy with either of the top picks, or a trade down to get an LB and hopefully Cutler. Who knows what's gonna happen? Like I said last year before the draft (and I was right)....whatever the Saints do, it probably won't be predictable.

TheDeuce 01-31-2006 10:56 AM

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Why do you go down to this level? Can't you actually give your opinion and disagree with someone else like an adult?
Actually Tobias, I was out of options. The guy keeps coming out with outrageous comments that have no credibility, kind of like a guy named Billy that I know of. Only asking why he can't ever back his arguments with something other than ridiculous comments like "Leinart sucks because he didn't win the Rose Bowl" when it's obvious he had a very good game.

And Tobias, another thing, when I want your opinion, I'll ask for it. I'm sure you thought you were being witty, or something, but guess what, I don't care what you think. None of this concerns you. What I posted was a joke, so nice job picking up the sarcasm.

Milians 01-31-2006 11:34 AM

Fact is, there is a major risk involved in drafting any player in the draft. There is a risk in drafting Young and Cutler as well as Bush, Leinart and Hawk. We can't sit here and say that without question , "such and such is a can't miss prospect." Hawk could end up being a bust just as Young could. The only player I truly feel comfortable drafting with the second pick is Bush. He just seems like the safest bet. After Bush, I would feel most comfortable with Ferguson or Hawk. The problem is that our biggest need is QB. Everything should fall into place after the combine and individual workouts, not to mention free-agency.

Tobias-Reiper 01-31-2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDeuce
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Why do you go down to this level? Can't you actually give your opinion and disagree with someone else like an adult?
Actually Tobias, I was out of options. The guy keeps coming out with outrageous comments that have no credibility, kind of like a guy named Billy that I know of. Only asking why he can't ever back his arguments with something other than ridiculous comments like "Leinart sucks because he didn't win the Rose Bowl" when it's obvious he had a very good game.

And Tobias, another thing, when I want your opinion, I'll ask for it. I'm sure you thought you were being witty, or something, but guess what, I don't care what you think. None of this concerns you. What I posted was a joke, so nice job picking up the sarcasm.

P-r-i-c-e-l-e-s-s...

ok, sort answer, obviously you can't...
You wouldn't know sarcasm if it bit you, nor wit for that matter... what you posted is not sarcastic, it is sophomoric...
...and what I posted wasn't even an opinion, nor was I trying to be witty... it was a straight question, I believe... Did I miss the question mark? Nope, it's right there.
... speaking of opinions, I don't know if you have noticed, but this is an internet forum. You do know how those work, don't you?

All I have to say is look at your own posts. Ciao.

TheDeuce 01-31-2006 03:58 PM

T-R, yeah I think I know how internet forums work. You make posts about whatever the forum is about. B&G.net is about the Saints. I was making a post about the Saints. You weren't. Why don't you talk about the Saints instead of critiquing other people's posts?

AllSaints 01-31-2006 07:13 PM

See if USC won the Rose Bowl.......... none of this crap would have started and know every 1 says he sucks and stuff and you ppl who say that are complete idiots I-D-I-O-T-S

Winwin 01-31-2006 08:56 PM

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See if USC won the Rose Bowl.......... none of this crap would have started and know every 1 says he sucks and stuff and you ppl who say that are complete idiots I-D-I-O-T-S


but that's just it, usc didn't win. even when they should've because they had more talent on the field than texas did. the real i-d-i-o-t's want to say texas's defense was better, they fail to mention how much more talented usc's offense was. and with all that talent at lienfart disposal, he failed! threw a int( ala brooks)...don't blame your defense, the offense should've been able to score thereby killing any chance for a texas comback.

aahhhuuuugggglast there was lienfart....

AllSaints 02-01-2006 06:52 AM

So um every QB who throws a inteception is a aaron brooks ???? is that what you saying.......?

TheDeuce 02-01-2006 09:18 AM

Don't even worry about what he's saying, it's all crap anyways....

FatiusJeebs 02-01-2006 10:57 AM

Screw it. Lets get Cutler. Any QB that can make Vandy look decent is worth a look.

AllSaints 02-01-2006 11:57 AM

lol Thedeuce i no he knows nothing............


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