Schuab for a 2nd?
 

Atlanta says they will trade b/u QB Swuabe for a 2ND round pick. Would anyone be willing to make this deal?

If we had a third I would think about trading it for Schaub. Our second round pick is too high to give to Atlanta. It is essentially a late first round pick.

Atlanta will not trade Schaub - period. Especially, to a team in the NFC South. The only way they would consider trading him to a divisional rival is if they were over-compensated for him. In other words, the only way they would possibly trade him, is if they were to get way more than he was worth. In a situation like that, we would lose out anyway.

Man....that sounds intruiging. Lets face it...we have seen enough of Schaub to know that he can get the job done. He is to Atl. what Delhomme was to us. I personally would not mind having Schaub then we can carefully pick our players in the draft. Now...will this ever happen? I dunno...but I think it would be good if it did.

Oh, yeah, I agree. He would be a really good, if not great QB, but I really don't see Atlanta trading him to a division rival, when their RB disguised as a QB is often injured. To tell you the truth, another season or two of Vick playing like he has, and you'll be more likely to see them trade Vick rather than Schaub. Like I said before, the only way they will trade Schaub at this time, is if they get way more than he is worth.

according to the article it stated all they wanted is a #2. It just seems to easy to me to be true. Personally I'd like to trade down for another second round pick and use that one to get Schuab and draft a LB, OT, DT whatever with our #'s 1 & 2 and we'd still get a QB....

Sounds like a plan to me.

if he could be our qb for some years to come what is a second rounder

I'd take him. But like MJF says, ain't gonna happen.

Where did you read the article? I'm not knocking your information, but this could be the same source that named Palmer as our Offensive Coordinator. And if it came out of Pro Football Weekly, then their info is usually right only half the time.

If there is any truth to this rumor, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Then we could trade down and acquire more picks... that 2nd would be easy to get back whether it's this or next year.

To tell you the truth, from what I've seen from Schuab on a talent level, I believe he is a proven NFL QB. If we did acquire him, then we would no longer have a need to draft a franchise QB. We could then trade down for at least another first round pick and probably two second round picks, and then draft Hawk. We would then be able to fill many more holes with the additional top quality picks.

As long as the Falcons have Ron Mexico as their QB, I too do not believe they would trade Matt Schuab. Anyway, I found this link:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...130inside.html

It was posted at SI from the Dayton Daily News, not sure where they came by the info.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ors.nfl/1.html

Would be a good deal if we could manage it.

Like I said in my previous post, that would alieviate the need to draft a QB, because Schaub is proven commodity. Trading would then become a feasible option. We would gain more picks and still be able to draft a great defensive player in A.J. Hawk.

That seems like the Bengals local media just throwing out a feeler since they may lose Kitna and Palmer's season hinging on his rehab. I doubt the Falcons would trade Schaub, especially with his ability to lead the team when Vick is hurt. Maybe the dirty birds will take Vicks 2nd cuz for Schaub, or better yet they'll draft his little bro as his back-up. I see those as better rumors.

If Atlanta presented this trade to me, I would pull the trigger in a heartbeat, because it would be one of the dumbest moves that organization could make, given it's current status.

I'd be very much OK with the trade, Schuab has the talent and has proved to me that he plays the game very well, I'd take him over Matt and Vince, reason is we know what we would have in Schuab next season, we could begin winning pretty quickly, can't say the same for sure with young drafted qb's, so to answer the question, yes I would make the trade, I'd do it, dame right I'd do it..
The Falones are crazy to even think about it much less trade their best QB on their team.
Schuab is a winner

The ONLY way I do this trade, depends on if we traded Bentley or not. Here's why. As someone posted in this thread, our second round pick is like a late first. Do I REALLY wanna give that to the Falcons, knowing MANY good players will still be available at that pick? Not me. But what if we traded LeCharles, and at least got a second and third for him? I'd take that later second, and trade it for Schaub. Then we have a QB, still have our first, our second, and also a third. Then I trade down no further than the Jets if they want Leinart, and pick up D'Brick with that pick. D'Brick and Jamaal as bookends? That's gold. I'd love Hawk, but if we lost Bentley, which trading him would be, we'd need a stud lineman elsewhere on the line. D'Brick is the guy. If he is gone, then Hawk. But we would still have our early second, and there will be a couple of good LBs still available there at that pick. But no franchise LTs.

Another way I would consider the trade is if Atlanta gave us their second, later in the round, and Schaub for our second, which, again, is just like a late first. I like Schaub, and think he is a good QB, but not straight up for the high second we have, without some other things falling into place first.

I understand your thinking, but consider this: We take Schaub in trade for our second round pick. So, now we've solved our QB delima. Then we trade down a few spots with team XYZ in the first round and get a first round pick, plus an extra second and probably third, and maybe even another first for next year. We would then be able to draft A.J. Hawk with the first round pick, and still have a second round pick from the Falcons, plus two third round picks, and possibly an extra first or second for next year.

But I still don't think they are in the market to trade Schaub.

Hey mjf, back to your point about trading with divisional teams....didn't we let Delhomme go to a divisional team? I dunno man.....like you said....higly unlikely but I think its worth a shot and I'm sure Schaub would lick his chops for a chance to start. And I think he would excel here in NO.
May the gods of trading and FA hook us up BIIIG TIIIME!!!!!

That's a good point, but the difference is that we did not willingly let Delhomme go to the Panthers, he was able to choose where he went because he was a FA. With Schaub and the Falcons it's different because they can choose where he goes because they get to approve the trade. Another big difference is that our personel department didn't know what we had in Delhomme, and the Falcons know exactly what they have in Schaub.

I was with you, until I saw trade Schaub for our second round pick. No way IMO. You are trading a late first(practically) for Schaub, in the hopes of being able to shop our first for more picks. I don't like that. The way I have it, we either have an extra second already for Schaub(trading LeCharles elsewhere), or we get the Faclons second plus Schaub for ours. In either of those scenarios, we are GUARANTEED to have another pick and Schaub. In yoru scenario, which isn't bad, it just leaves us HOPING, we get extra picks. I like the sure thing.

I say we give up all our picks to Houston for Bush!! C'mon we did it for Ricky!! (Please do not terminate my membership in this forum...this is a joke. I REPEAT this is only a joke...lol)

Why not let the cousins play together.... trade Brooks straight up for Schaub.

Haha good idea. That would be a very atheltic QB combo, although their passing would leave something to be desired.

Nah... we are already getting somebody his name is Matt Leinart..........

Why am I not sold on Leinart? Something tells me that he just won't cut it in this league. Anyone else share this feeling of impending doom when it comes to Leinart?

Leinart is the wrong answer to turn the francise around... trade down and get better value.

Actually, out of Leinart and Young, according to analyst, Leinart has a better chance of succeeding in the NFL, because Young will have more to work on to become a NFL caliber QB. But save the Leinart-Young debate for another post because their are plenty of them already in this forum.

The reason I would make this trade over simply draft Leinart is because Schaub is a proven commodity.

Exactly...he has proven what he can do in the NFL. Leinert has proven what he can do on the college level. No reason to believe he can't make it in the NFL but there is no "sure thing" now days. I like the possibilities associated with the trade. A proven QB plus more opportunities to select proven college players with hopes that they will develope.

I would make the trade for our current second round pick. And while I respect the arguements of those who say that the pick is essentually a late first round pick, I do not agree. There are more teams in the NFL now then there has ever been - 32. So, if you were to make a totally theoretical assumption about what a pick is or isn't, then it would be more logical to say that a 29-32 pick in the first round is essentually a early second round pick because if we went back to early '90's, when there were only 28 teams, that is exactly what they would be.

Thank you mjf. I agree. Well if we need a QB and we want a second round pick...maybe it is worth it. I say grab Schaub...grab their lower 2nd rounder and give them ours. Or maybe a conditional pick in the '07 draft.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...130inside.html

• The Atlanta Falcons are willing to part with backup QB Matt Schaub for a second-round pick. If the Bengals choose not to re-sign free agent Jon Kitna, Schaub could emerge as a candidate to bridge the gap until Carson Palmer's return from a left knee injury.

Trade down form 2 then give up the #2 we get in the trade and i am all for it.
Now Schaub is a stud. He has proven it. cheap cheap cheap

Now your thinking. I don't know about cheap, but he would be alot cheaper then the 2 QB's we are talking about taking and we could get a few more picks out of the deal.

Schaub, Volek, Kitna, Collins or Ferotte take your pick they have experience and could help the team now, not in a year or two because I don't think Young or Leinart would have an impact next year and we don't want to keep AB now do we?

hey cher we have been preaching this for months. swab a second and his salary is cheap.

Actually, the exact opposite of what you said is true. With the internet, video cameras, combine, game film for EVERY possible pro athlete, and more and more scouts, MORE prospects actually get found and are able to be drafted than ever before. There may be 4 more teams, but there are DOZENS more players who could possibly be first round selections simply due to the amount of coverage that is now available on EVERY prsopect. Teams are no longer drafting blind as much as they had been in the past. This expands the draft pool more and more as each year goes by.

While i have been on the Leinart bandwagon as of late, this scenario would be golden. A STUD???? I wouldn't go that far. If he was ATL wouldn't be willing to part with him for a second. However, Schaub is more than capable when compared to guys like AB and Boller who have/had starting jobs in the NFL.