4-3 or 3-4, I guess we have the answer!
 

Saints | Plan to use 4-3 defensive scheme
Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:07:54 -0800

Mike Triplett, writing for the Sporting News, reports the New Orleans Saints plan to employ a 4-3 defensive scheme to start the 2006 season.

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Hmmmmm, just as I suspected. No surprise here.

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no shocker, ty for the info though!

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I have no problem with the 4-3 but, I hope that as the years pass we can grab the personnel for a solid 3-4.

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Give it up, it's not going to happen. Building a 3-4 takes years, and its usually teams who have a solid roster of players who can afford to use a few picks in the drafts to make the switch; the Saints aren't even close.

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I agree Deuce....anyways the 4-3 could be very solid with a strong MLB......
We are only 1 ta 2 players away from having a dominating Defense....

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I will fight to the death Duece. LOL. I see your point completely....I know we are light years away from a 3-4 but... I still would like to see it happen.

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I agree with FJ. I completely agree that right now 4-3 is the way to go because we do not have the players to use a 3-4. However I would like to see us draft and sign players with intentions of using a 3-4 in a couple years down the road.

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I agree with ya Ching and Hawk is the man. Glad you are jumping on the bandwagon. haha!

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Where did he refer to Hawk in his post????? I actually think that he meant getting Hodge and Howard... :saintsfan:

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You wish. I was just giving him a little nudge to the right pick.

I would love to get Hawk...the kid is a pure gamer....but not at the cost of Leinart..
no way.....

I don't want to see a "shift" to the 3-4 down the road. It usually means a total restructuring of the Defense from line to LB to pass coverage. A shift would mean our D was so bad it wouldn't matter if we we mediocre for another year. If not a total breakdown, it'd be a step back for a year.

I agree with Chaching, Hawk would be great, but not at the loss of a franchise QB.

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I could not figure out why this was a question that needed to be answered. We do not have a NT, and we are 3 or 4 good LB's short of what would be needed for a switch. We have no idea if W. Smith, C Grant, Whitehead, or D Howard would be capable of playing the end position in a 3 front for most of a game. D Howard and Whitehead may be able to but Grant and W Smith are pure 4 front DE's.

Of course I cannot back this up. However since you see it on the internet it has to be true.

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I would rather get Hawk. Guys remember....a solid defense with a mediorcre QB can still win a SB. Just ask Trent Dilfer....or you can even ask Jim McMahon.(I think thats how its spelled...;0) Hell you could even ask Ben Roethlesberger (22.8 rating). Defense wins superbowls.... a good enough offense makes a great insurance policy.

WhoDat? Wasn't LaRoi Glover on a 3-4 defense this year in Dallas? Isn't he even smaller than any of our 4 DE's?

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Fatius, he (LaRoi) did as a Nose Tackle, and he posted the lowest numbers of his career. In ALL catagories. Now I'm not sure if he was a 3rd down specialist. In which case his numbers were great.

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Thanx BJSim... my point here is that I understand we need certain personnel to execute a good 3-4 but hell...if LaRoi can be used...I'm sure some of our 25 DE's can be applied to the scheme.

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You truly are obsessed with the 3-4 and I'm not sure I understand your facination with it. Why would you like to see the Saints deploy such a scheme? It's not a better blitzing package. And, as more teams employ it, it gets easier for offenses to read it. Plus it's harder to draft for because of the need for more and better linebackers.

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FatiusJeebs,
you are correct, La'roi is smalle than almost all of our DE's. However Glover has always been a decent sack guy and a great run stopper, no matter where he was on the D line.

I have yet to see any of out DE's be great against the run. However with the switch yyou never know, I will admit that. What we do not have is the large Vince WIlfork type guy to play NT.

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Its true BJSim....I have trouble sleeping at night thinking of the 3-4. Well...thinking of the days of the Dome Patrol...along with the Steelers, and Cowboys. I'll tell you why I like it. I feel that the 3-4 allows for...good run stoppage although I will admit the 4-3 may be better for that but as we ourselves have seen with the Dome Patrol....it can work. Second, Blitz packages, this formation allows for a ton of flexibility, variation, in short... the 3-4 when it comes to Blitzing does an excellent job of confusing the QB, better than the 4-3 in my opinion. Finally, I think the 3-4 provides better pass coverage...especially for those little middle of the field 5-10 yard type passes. I just think it covers the field and messes with QB's minds a lot better than the 4-3.

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Tampa Bay's cover-two has worked well in disguising both blitzing packages and drop-dack coverage. But as can be seen, more and more offenses are starting to pick it apart. The same can be said prior to that, with Baltimore's 3-4 Super Bowl team. And WAY prior to that was Buddy Ryan's blitzing scheme. All have had their time and all are good Ds. But that doesn't mean we need to sacrifice a year of progression to make a lateral move to any of them. I'd rather see our new D-Cord (yes a 3-4 specialist) design the next big thing. I'd love to hear about halfway thru the season that we're the best D and upcoming opponents are having trouble designing an offense to move against us. But I don't neccessarily think the 3-4 will make that happen.

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Well...I totally agree with your there. Even with the players I hope we do get....we can implement a great 4-3 for the next year or 2. BUT!!!... I hope that 2-3 years down the line....we have the personnel in check...and we implement the 3-4.

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LOL ... can't say you're not persistent!!!

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I try. ;0) He he. Basically....you and I have one thing in common....we want the Saints to dominate.(and they'll do it with the 3-4.....lololol)

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Hell, I became a Saints fan because of guys like Swilling, Jackson, and Mills. I love defensive games, and would love to see a team like the early 90s where 3-4 defensive players went to the Pro-Bowl every year.

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Ahhhh....Sim you are finally seeing my vision. LOL. Whatever happens...I love the Saints..PERIOD!! The days of QB drillin and RB stuffing will rise again.

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lol... dreamers!

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Pak, that's what the offseason is for... DREAMING.