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Saints: Drew Brees signed a six-year $60 million deal, but it's really a one-year, $10 million contract, giving New Orleans a chance to find out if he's healthy and effective after surgery for a torn labrum and partial rotator cuff tear. He may not be ready for the opener. He has a $12 million option next year. It's surprising that Sean Payton wanted Brees over Leinart. One theory: With speculation that Tom Benson could sell the Saints in the near future, he had no interest in paying the $20 million-plus in guaranteed money it will take to sign Leinart.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...p-339602c.html

I hope Terry Bradshaw and company are still around. It does make You wonder

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Hagan good post, this is exactly what I've said from the beginning of the Leinart debate, "that Benson would not want to pay him". I guarantee you we will trade out of the number 2 spot to at least the 7 spot, if not alot lower (Denver). Don't say it can't happen because it can. The Broncos want Elway back in a bad way and Leinart is their man.

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Benson = one cheap dude... passing up on one of the best qb's to come out of the draft because of money is ridiculous. Tough when you're a Saints and Yankees fan, get spoiled by Georgy boy who will never go cheap on me. If this is true I'm kinda suprised he even was willing to give Brees 6 years 60 million, almost makes me think he may be one and done, which I hope he isn't.

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i don't put any credit into it because benson isn't going to sell. i think he has made that clear

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I didn't say he was going to sell just that he wouldn't pay for the pick at #2.

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Ha he'll just be paying for D'Brick, Hawk or Williams at #4.

I still say no way with the Denver deal. If it's a straight up deal for their 22nd and 29th they would be clowned on ESPN all year. A franchise QB is worth far more than two low 1st rounders. Mangold is no D'Brick.

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As much as this may be true, I was never sold on Leinhart to begin with. I was hoping the Saints would pick up Drew Brees as soon as the season was over last year. He was my number one choice. Kitna was my second. I wanted a veteran quarterback in charge for a couple of years while we train a young one (who could possibly be a superstar.) I was never sold on Leinhart or Young - atleast not with them starting their first year into the league.

All I'm saying is that there are logical conclusions as to why we would take Brees over Leinhart. Some people actually wanted it to happen and it wasn't 'about the money.'

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I live in Northern California and have for almost forty years. Matt Leinart is a very good QB but he's not Elway. Leinart played on a great team in a week conference. Elway played on a crappy team (Stanford never had a winning record while he was there) in a strong Pac-10. Leinart can't run very well. Elway could...very well. Leinert has some arm strength issues. Obviously Elway didn't. Leinert went to SC, hardly an academic powerhouse when it comes to its' athletes. Stanford? Carry a 3.0gpa or you don't play.

Wait til the workouts...and then New Orleans will realize they should pass on Leinert and draft Jay Cutler.

I think it has been established that Denver wants to have less picks this year because of a cap crunch. #22 and #29 is way short of value for #2. But even if it wasn't, they are looking for less money paid out. Ideally they would want to trade their lower half first rounders for 2007 first rounders they think would be upper tier. New Orleans history would make this not much of a risk/guess. #22 or #29 for a possible #1 to 16 next year.

i would love this cuz i think the kicker would be that pick ending up later in the first than what they gave up- with the big turnaround on schedule for this year.
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I'm a huge Matt Leinart guy, I think he's going to be a very good player. However, I've come around to the moves the front office is making. I'll be happy with the Drew Brees signing if we can trade down and pile up picks. If we can't trade down and we pick at 2, I would rather have Leinart and not have signed Brees, unless Bush falls to #2, I'd be happy with him also at 2.

Not me. I think in any other year, Hawk and Ferguson would have been consensus top three picks. And besides, what's done is done.

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With the 12 million pick up next year and a rebuilt shoulder, i have to really wonder what is in the future at QB. With Young dropping and Cuttler god knows where, Matt is the man so I think Tenn may want to swap to get Chow the guy he knows best. We may do a San Diego and take Matt to trade him.
Then the jets to me are not going to make a big move at QB despite what the fans want. I see the Brick or Mario as there target. Unless the go after Bush.
As far as Denver goes i can see them moving up to make a move for Davis in the top 10 or Chad Jackson 15 through 20.

What player, past or present, would you compare Reggie Bush with? Now narrow your search to only first round picks? Narrow it even further to upper tier first round picks. I don't think you found much, didja? BTW, he reminds me of Dave Meggett and Eric Metcalf, neither of which were overall first rounders.

Bush is a quality player but the fact is he only touched the ball twenty times a game--if that--at SC. He played behind a huge and excellent O-line and was rarely touched at the line of scrimmage. But he hasn't proven he can take a pounding. If Kubiak uses the Denver style run attack of "one cut and go" Bush could easily be successful. But, using Payton's past running games at Dallas and New York, it's doubtful he'll install that kind of scheme in New Orleans.

In short, too many ifs with Bush and, that high up the draft, better to go with more of a probable.

Blake, Bush reminds me of LT, and I think Tomlinson is worthy of the 2nd pick in the draft. Bush and LT work out together in the off season and they both have similar running styles. I would say Bush is stronger than LT and a little faster. Hagan, as for Brees' shoulder and future with the team, I have my questions, but am willing to give him one year and see what happens. If it doesn't work out we can draft a qb next year or sign a qb in free agency. I'd love to have Leinart as a Saint but I don't think it would be smart for us to be paying 2 qb's soo much money, unless the FO only plans on keeping Brees around for one year...

Tomlinson is 5'10" 220lbs. He was a workhorse at TCU. Bush is 6'0" and showed up at the combines @ 200lbs. and wasn't a workhorse at USC. TCU's O-line was nothing compared to USC's. BTW twenty pounds can make a lot of difference. Sorry. I don't think it's a good comparison. And the fact that they work out together is meaningless in this context.

Well the reason I mentioned they work out together is that Bush is learning from LT. He's learning how to take care of himself, how to train, they watch film together. If Reggie's going to have a mentor, LT isn't a bad choice. I'm sure Bush is learning alot about how to stay healthy from LT. I also believe that Bush can handle the a heavy workload, but didn't have to because he had White as well. Bush not getting a lot of carries only means he's healthy and fresh and I believe that the 2 are very similar