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LivnaLieTimay 03-29-2006 03:49 PM

Improving and cutting out dumb plays are nice things to say but any fan should only be satisfied with a championship and nothing less. We've seen teams in the nfl go from worst to first, so I say why not us? Why not come out of nowhere and bring a championship to NO. I've only been on this site for a couple months and this is the first time the topic about an upcoming year has come up so I may have gotten carried away with saying that Saints fans settle for mediocrity, but I'm only going off what I see and I'm not seeing many people saying they want a championship this year. I may be just me, but when the season is over and another team is celebrating a championship i get jealous and pissed, so I'll only be satisfied with a super bowl title. P.S. Landing a hot chick like Joe said is a nice bonus.

saintswhodi 03-29-2006 04:08 PM

This ain't Fantasy Island, and none of us caught a Leprechaun to get three wishes. What team do you know that has gone from worst to first to win a title? That's just something the league puts out to promote parity. Can you go from worst to respectable? Hell yeah. But teams that win titles usually have enjoyed some semblance of recent success. NE? Went to the Superbowl with Bledsoe. Pittsburgh? Numerous AFC champ games and a Superbowl trip under Cowher. Tampa Bay? One of the league's best defenses for YEARS, and NFC champ game participant. Those are your recent winners. Anyone who questions the fact any group of fans wants to win a championship is missing the boat. We ALL want that, I bet more than any other fans in the league. But we're not much for blowing smoke up people's asses on this site, and like to stay grounded in reality.

papz 03-29-2006 04:09 PM

Who isn't tired of mediocrity around here? Who doesn't want a championship? But, you got to be a little realistic. We finished the season 3-12 or whatever last year and what do you think our chances are of winning it all... not great at all. We're better off taking it a game at a time and just making it into the playoffs would be a great first step... and that would definately satisfy me. We all want to win around here... baby steps fellow grasshopper.

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but any fan should only be satisfied with a championship and nothing less.
The last guy who was telling us how to be a Saints fan was the first one who jumped ship on us midway through last season.

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LivnaLieTimay 03-29-2006 04:19 PM

Whodi, St. Louis Rams... 1998: 4-12, 1999: 13-3 super bowl champs. It can happen! Sorry, I guess I'm too optimistic. Who would have thought George Mason would be in the final 4 at the beginning of the year?... Papz, what are you implying with "The last guy who was telling us how to be a Saints fan was the first one who jumped ship on us midway through last season." I've been a Saints fan forever, I'm not jumping ship if they struggle next year.

papz 03-29-2006 04:23 PM

That's what the last guy said. I'm not saying you will or you won't (I'm almost sure you won't)... I'm just telling you what happened to the last guy.

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I've been a Saints fan forever, I'm not jumping ship if they struggle next year.
Aren't we all... aren't we all. :annoy:

saintswhodi 03-29-2006 04:24 PM

So one team out of 40 years of Superbowl champs is your example? Consider me convinced. :roll:

LivnaLieTimay 03-29-2006 04:31 PM

Thanks for the heads up papz, haha. Seen way too many losing seasons since I've been a fan, if we do struggle next year, one more isn't going to push me over the edge, or will it... :nutkick:

LivnaLieTimay 03-29-2006 04:37 PM

Sorry whodi, it's just the way I feel. I'm too competitive to be happy with anything less than first. If we don't win it all but we made improvements, I'll look back on the year and find positives, but for me man, losing isn't something I'm satisfied with.

saintswhodi 03-29-2006 04:46 PM

And what makes you think anyone else is fine with losing? Seems to me you'll just be more crushed than the rest of us cause of your unrealistic expectations. Nothing I can do to help that.............................

LivnaLieTimay 03-29-2006 04:54 PM

Timay was a simple guy, "You might say a cockeyed optimist, who got himself mixed up in the high stakes game of world diplomacy and international intrigue."... Thanks for lookin out for me, I'll be good, but you know, new year, anythings possible... I'm excited about this year, aim for the sky, see what happens

JOESAM2002 03-29-2006 05:13 PM

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Seems to me you'll just be more crushed than the rest of us cause of your unrealistic expectations.
So, are you telling me I got no chance with Bo?

LivnaLieTimay 03-29-2006 05:28 PM

One last thing, the question was "What will satisfy you in 2006?" not "What do you think will happen in 2006?" 2 different answers for these questions. What I'll be satisfied with and what I think is going to happen are definately different...

jnormand 03-29-2006 05:31 PM

Hey guys. Been a while but I'm glad to be back! I don't know how this team is going to play next season, but it better be better than 3-13. I think Brees is going to give the O a face lift, but I don't know how a first year coach is going do. I'll be content with anything better than 8-8. I guess I just want to see some real improvement on both sides of the ball. I'm really excited about this season. Hoping for the best.

spkb25 03-29-2006 05:41 PM

whodi you made me laugh. good post man. i thik the question is what would make you happy next year. i am sure that everyone would be happy with a superbowl win. that in itself is obvious. we also haven't made the playoffs for what 5 seasons now. so if we were to watch a game in january why is that not ok to be happy about. it's progress. that is a good thing i think

LongTimeFan 03-29-2006 06:24 PM

If I was to have jumped ship due to bad seasons I wouldn't have made my 30th birthday.

spkb25 03-29-2006 06:45 PM

LTF i was close to jumping ship. if we had brought back jim i was gone man. then i wouldn't know what to do because i wouldn't know who to be behind

LongTimeFan 03-29-2006 07:59 PM

sbkb....it would have been another hard year if Haz & Brooks would have returned this coming season, oh how things have changed.

CheramieIII 03-29-2006 08:03 PM

When you reach for the stars you may not quite get one, but you won't come up with a handful of mud either.
Leo Burnett

Crusader 03-30-2006 02:42 PM

Guts, courage and HEART!

Saint_LB 03-30-2006 05:55 PM

Re: What Will Satisfy You in 2006?
 
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Originally Posted by LKelley67
We have questioned in the past to what degree the moves were directed by Haz or by Loomis. The fresh new positive direction reinforces my belief that Haslett was the primary director of personnel calls and Loomis the operative. Haz was a well known lover of the athletically endowed while often missing thier heart and drive or smarts for the game. The team reflected that. Aaron Brooks was the zenith of that philosophy. Booting Sammy Knight and trading 3 draft picks for Tebucky Jones was the apex of enacting it.

I gave Haz full support to start with. I am remembering how that changed-

2000- new kid on the block Haz's results cannot be argued with. Mueller looks like a real football guy in the front office, NFL Exec of the Year.

2001- 7-5 playoff contention, lose last 4 games by combined 42-160 score. ugly collapse.

2002- Mueller fired in FO power struggle (uh oh me sez). 9-4 record- playoffs with one more win, but lose last 3 games to teams with combined 10-29 record going into the Saints game, disgusting way to go out, most underachieving team MO established

2003- the Jonathan Sullivan draft debacle, the 1-4 start dooms them, they play erratic but finish strong. Deuce and Brooks have their best years. Defense is disappearing but O is good. I am all the more skeptical of this organization but maybe there still is hope

2004- things are dim at 4-8, It looks like a badly coached and bad team both. Brooks fumbling reaches 51 in 4 seasons starting. I'm ready to pull the plug on Haz. Even if not, Brooks must go. If we are gonna lose, let's do it a different way at least is my mantra.

2005- So much so bad in so many different ways. I only cringe thinking Haz/Brooks will get a bye for the year with the hurricane situation. Brooks benched?!?! A sparkle of distant hope.

After reviewing, I think about support for the new regime. As much as I love the Brees signing you do have to understand it is a move considered by most as very risky. I'd probably like to see some more FA action and signings. too. I have my ideas and preferences about draft trades and the players that could help the team most. They may follow that or it could end up completely different. My support increases or decreases not on those moves but on two other things. One, bottomline is win/losses, playoffs, and beyond. Nothing satisfies like wins. It may not end up being my preferred style or approach but after only 7 winning seasons (count'em) in 39 years I will take them anyway they come. Just as important though is another aspect: solid strategy, performance, and FO operation. The wins may vary from year to year but there is no arguing about strong organizations. That is why Cowher has been in Pittsburgh so long. That is why no one questions Jeff Fisher's calls when he is coping with a cap strapped team. I do think there is a nucleus of talent that could turn things around quickly here like the Bucs or Bears last season. But even if it ends in a 7-9 finish here's how I still would be happy: if this draft is scored among the tops in 2007, if we plummeted to the bottom of the list in pre-snap penalties (all penalties too), if the D starting looking intimidating even if they still were burned occasionally, if the D became known as a solid tackling bunch, if the D scheme becomes the opposite of the Venturi bend-don't-break-let-them-just-keep-rolling-over-us approach, if they play consistent avoiding 0-4 holes and end seaon collapses, and if the Dome is rocking and the team's future is cemented in Nawlins.

What will make you happy?

Hey, LK, nice to read some of your stuff again. I tried to respond to you in the other thread, but it was locked, so I figured I would respond here. I have been reading some of your posts today, and I am pleased to see you haven't lost your touch. Keep 'em coming, man. I am always interested in what you've got to say.


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