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BlackandBlue 04-13-2006 07:57 PM

can't block bs
 
Where did all this bs come from about Vernon Davis being a horrible blocker? I've read it a few times here lately.......he's not that bad, I'm sitting here watching some footage, trying to figure out why he's so bad.

wheelman 04-13-2006 08:23 PM

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They say it because they've never actually seen him play. Just like the people who say Cutler sucks only because he played for Vanderbilt.

CheramieIII 04-13-2006 10:06 PM

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WE DON'T NEED A TE! I don't know how else to say it.

BlackandBlue 04-13-2006 10:31 PM

what the hell does that have to do with my question?

CheramieIII 04-13-2006 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
what the hell does that have to do with my question?

Lately BnB you don't really talk football you just make off the wall comments and I'll tell you what that has to do with your question. I don't think it is a question, because we won't draft a TE anyway. Remember you started the thread. Are you lost dude?

I really think so!

Let me ask a question:

If the world was purple would you be blue? That's the kind of questions you ask, sorry!

BlackandBlue 04-14-2006 07:47 AM

shocked to see you read my posts, i usually skip yours.

still trying to decide what the **** your post had to do with my original post.

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If the world was purple would you be blue? That's the kind of questions you ask, sorry!
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Where did all this bs come from about Vernon Davis being a horrible blocker?
i can see your confusion :|

coming from the guy who wigged out about a year ago because he felt we didn't have enough moderation representation on the boards, and can't understand why he was never made a moderator.

would you have preferred that i humbly accept your post, and carry on with my life without saying a word? Oh, cherry said, "WE DON'T NEED A TE," well, that certainly answers my question as to why people think he is a bad blocker. thanks man, I appreciate YOUR useful information. Now, i believe it's time to go change your Depends, might want to go get on that, old man, before things get messy around here.

hagan714 04-14-2006 08:08 AM

If we trade out and DBrick and AJ or off the board for some strange reason. I would take him overany other player remaining. Bush DBrick AJ and Davis are the only players in the draft without hype and question marks connected to there name. Believe you me in 3 years time 3 to 4 teams will be laughed at for passing on him. they will be the next additions to the draft blooper reel.

BlackandBlue 04-14-2006 08:16 AM

i'm with you there. not that i think the saints will be in a position to pick him, i started piecing my mock draft together last night, and i have the saints selecting ferguson with the 2nd pick. i should have the entire first round posted early next week.

i don't like bad information, and i saw repeated posts stating he was a bad blocker, which is not true. was trying to clear the air, until someone tried to derail this thread.....

saintswhodi 04-14-2006 08:24 AM

Before you two ladies get into another slap fight, i'll give you the Scouts Inc take:

Weaknesses: Possesses less than ideal height and bulk. Is powerful in his upper body but lacks a wide base to anchor as a blocker. Needs to improve his hand-usage, angles and overall technique as a blocker. May never develop into anything more than an H-back that needs to be protected as a blocker in space in the NFL.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/...layer?id=10310

So write them an e-mail bud, maybe they can tell you why they feel this way. 8)

JOESAM2002 04-14-2006 08:33 AM

My,My,My, ain't life grand! :lol:

BlackandBlue 04-14-2006 08:43 AM

thanks whodi, but i'll go by what i see, not what i read ;) but if we must....

http://umterps.cstv.com/sports/m-foo..._vernon00.html

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has become a complete tight end as he is now an outstanding blocker
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...rnondavis.html

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Improving as a blocker and is adequate right now but can still get better in that area
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=8&c=1&nid=2142162

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Also had a good season as a blocker
the knock on the guy is his size, and the adverse affect that can have on his blocking. i'm not seeing a horrible blocker when i watch game footage, do you? i see a guy who is average at blocking, but that is something he can upgrade tremendously at the next level.

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ain't life grand!
good song ;)

hagan714 04-14-2006 08:55 AM

:twisted:
I like what I heard in the fact he is not a modern style blocker. He is an old fashion smash mouth blocker. technique you can teach attitude you can not. Besides Defenses will be thinking about jamming him at the line. he will have the upper hand most of the time. If he is to block a LB that poor guy is thinking he can not let him get behind me. upper hand goes to Davis. I love the problems he causes the opposing defenses.

saintswhodi 04-14-2006 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
thanks whodi, but i'll go by what i see, not what i read ;) but if we must....

http://umterps.cstv.com/sports/m-foo..._vernon00.html

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has become a complete tight end as he is now an outstanding blocker
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...rnondavis.html

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Improving as a blocker and is adequate right now but can still get better in that area
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=8&c=1&nid=2142162

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Also had a good season as a blocker
the knock on the guy is his size, and the adverse affect that can have on his blocking. i'm not seeing a horrible blocker when i watch game footage, do you? i see a guy who is average at blocking, but that is something he can upgrade tremendously at the next level.

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ain't life grand!
good song ;)

Maybe you misunderstood what I posted as my opinion on the matter. It wasn't. I have no opinion about Davis' blocking cause I have only seen one or two of his games, and I damn sure wasn't watching for his blocking technique during them. I was just giving you the opinion of people who actually get paid to scout this info, and suggesting you could e-mail them to see why they felt that way. I don't know why there was the need to get confrontational.

papz 04-14-2006 09:06 AM

I've watched a couple of Maryland games myself and I never even knew the guy existed. But as far as his blocking, Maryland was a pretty good running team I thought so his blocking can't be as bad as some say.

BlackandBlue 04-14-2006 09:06 AM

confrontational? moi? skippy? :P

thought i would post a few more sources, that's all. why you hating on Davis? :P

saintswhodi 04-14-2006 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
confrontational? moi? skippy? :P

thought i would post a few more sources, that's all. why you hating on Davis? :P

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Maybe you misunderstood what I posted as my opinion on the matter. It wasn't.
I'll tell you what though, there is no way in hell I am getting behind any thought of drafting a tight end high with all these stud defenders in this draft. That's crack head thinking. :D

BlackandBlue 04-14-2006 09:15 AM

I'm gonna tell you somethin' you might not know about me, Joe Rogan: I smoke rocks.

saintswhodi 04-14-2006 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
I'm gonna tell you somethin' you might not know about me, Joe Rogan: I smoke rocks.

Never would've guessed. :P

BrooksMustGo 04-14-2006 09:29 AM

I'm sort of with WhoDi.

I'm openly hating on Davis. He's like the shorter, slower, less athletic Matt Jones. It's way too high to consider him at #2 or even the top 5. He will probably go in the top 10, but I think that's too high for the TE position.

I'm with B&B on this--Klopfenstein would be a great pick.

BlackandBlue 04-14-2006 09:33 AM

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I'm with B&B on this--Klopfenstein would be a great pick.
give the credit to papz, i didn't watch any footage on this guy, until i read his post a few months ago.

saintswhodi 04-14-2006 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
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I'm with B&B on this--Klopfenstein would be a great pick.
give the credit to papz, i didn't watch any footage on this guy, until i read his post a few months ago.

I ain't giving papz credit for **** until Chase Lyman makes a play for us. :P

papz 04-14-2006 10:14 AM

Haha... we'll see about that sw. I know every camp we hear all these good things about our players and for the past 4-5 years, we have nothing to show from all the off season hype. I'm hopeful Chase can contribute but I know right now it is what it is. I'm just happy people are now a little open to the idea that he can be a player... not just a walking Homer.

BlackandBlue 04-14-2006 10:27 AM

or the next Cie Grant......

saintswhodi 04-14-2006 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by papz
Haha... we'll see about that sw. I know every camp we hear all these good things about our players and for the past 4-5 years, we have nothing to show from all the off season hype. I'm hopeful Chase can contribute but I know right now it is what it is. I'm just happy people are now a little open to the idea that he can be a player... not just a walking Homer.

I'm not open to that idea, and won't be until the scoreboard says Chase Lyman has done more than collect a check on Mondays from this team. So there. :P

Where's my boy Roydell?!?!?!?!?!? :D

dberce1 04-14-2006 11:38 AM

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I'm gonna tell you somethin' you might not know about me, Joe Rogan: I smoke rocks.
Ultimate Fighter anyone?

AllSaints 04-14-2006 11:39 AM

Im not hating on him i just dont want him we have no need 4 a TE......... but he is a good TE .......

gandhi1007 04-14-2006 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
confrontational? moi? skippy? :P

thought i would post a few more sources, that's all. why you hating on Davis? :P

Damn, B&B. Sounds like you need something to take the edge off. :D

BlackandBlue 04-14-2006 12:29 PM

plan to in a couple hours ;)

gandhi1007 04-14-2006 02:27 PM

Dial two, eight, one, three, three, oh, eight, zero, zero, fo!!!
Hit Mike Jones on the low,
'cause Mike Jones about to blow!

MIKE JOOOONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :itsgood:

CheramieIII 04-14-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue
shocked to see you read my posts, i usually skip yours.

still trying to decide what the **** your post had to do with my original post.

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If the world was purple would you be blue? That's the kind of questions you ask, sorry!
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Where did all this bs come from about Vernon Davis being a horrible blocker?
i can see your confusion :|

coming from the guy who wigged out about a year ago because he felt we didn't have enough moderation representation on the boards, and can't understand why he was never made a moderator.

would you have preferred that i humbly accept your post, and carry on with my life without saying a word? Oh, cherry said, "WE DON'T NEED A TE," well, that certainly answers my question as to why people think he is a bad blocker. thanks man, I appreciate YOUR useful information. Now, i believe it's time to go change your Depends, might want to go get on that, old man, before things get messy around here.

You got me B! :cry:


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