Donnie Edwards and Ricky Manning Jr. on the block
 

Both these guys are available. Ricky Manning Jr. wouldn't be a bad pickup for CB and Edwards is a stud at LB.


Edwards on the block
<Apr. 14> Chargers GM A.J. Smith confirmed to The San Diego Union-Tribune on Thursday that the team is indeed shopping Edwards. The paper speculates that the Chargers are looking to get a first-day draft pick in return for the veteran linebacker.
"If it's not attractive, nothing will be done," Smith said. "If it is, decisions will be made."

Edwards, the Chargers' leading tackler the last four seasons, is in the final year of the $18.75 million contract he signed with San Diego as a free agent in 2002. The 33-year-old has a cap charge of $3.55 million in 2006.

The Chargers are also looking to trade safety Hanik Milligan, according to ESPN.com's John Clayton.

Bears eyeing CB Manning
<Apr. 14> Panthers cornerback Ricky Manning Jr. left Chicago without an offer sheet, but don't be surprised if the restricted free agent gets one soon, reports ESPN.com's John Clayton. The Panthers tendered Manning low at $721,600, making him available for a third-round choice.
Manning wants to be a starting cornerback, but that isn't going to happen in Carolina with Ken Lucas and Chris Gamble on the team. The Bears had a Pro Bowl season out of Nathan Vasher, but Charles Tillman, whom many thought would have a Pro Bowl season, struggled. Manning could push Tillman for a starting job


What do you guys think. Heres the link:
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RE: Donnie Edwards and Ricky Manning Jr. on the block
 

He wouldn't be a bad 2nd corner compared to what we already have. :?

RE: Donnie Edwards and Ricky Manning Jr. on the block
 

manning would be a good addition, but i wouldn't give up much for him.

RE: Donnie Edwards and Ricky Manning Jr. on the block
 

Scenario, we trade our # 2 to the Chargers for Edwards, then we trade the #2 to the Jets for their #4 and #35. We draft Brick at #4 and Mangold at #35. Talk about filling holes.

RE: Donnie Edwards and Ricky Manning Jr. on the block
 

With Simmons, Fujita or Hawk and Edwards....Pretty good looking LB's. The possiblity of the Saints going after Edwards is slim though. He wants big money. But, he has been an outstanding LB for the Chargers the last 3 or 4 years. Led the team in tackles in at least the last two seasons.

RE: Donnie Edwards and Ricky Manning Jr. on the block
 

Nevermind, looks like he led the team in tackles the last 4 years. You can't ask for much more than that.

The edwards deal I'm not too sweet on just b/c he is 33 and while he did lead his team intackles the last 4 seasons, I'm not inclined to get a guy that old. His cap number isn't too bad, but then he's a FA.

That said....Edwards would be an instant upgrade at the defensive spot we realy could use help at...that of leader. Plus he does play with a chip on his shoulder, so he has the kind of attitude we can rally around. If we can get a deal in place for more picks prior to the deal, I say do it, but not ifwe are giving up our only other 1st day pick onthe hopes a team trades up.

Manning I love. Kid plays big..bigger than he is...and is a great guy. Giving up a third for him and filling out that other CB slot would be a fair deal, but again...where do we get the picks from?

Manning.....HELL YEAH....
then we could somehow drop Craft's sorry ass and move fred to nickel..
no brainer.

If Haslett was still coach, I would say there is no way in hell that the Saints would try to pick up either of those guys, but with Coach P....different story. The guy is aggressive and is trying to land some FA's that this team needs. I don't think either are completely out of the question.

Ricky Manning is toast. He got beat out by Ken Lucas AND Chris Gamble for starting spots. He has tried to live off his name since the playoffs when they went to the Superbowl. If he is anything more than a nikcel, pass. Which means I wouldn't give up more than a 5th or 6th rounder for him.

Edwards I could warm up too, but he's 33. This team doesn't have much luck with aging once good vets coming here and having good seasons. (Brian Cox, Dale Carter, Ashley Ambrose, Wayne Gandy, etc.). But he did have 150 something tackles last year. So if he's reasonable about salary, i'd be willing to let him roll for another year or two. But if it's Edwards or Hawk, i'm going with Hawk, age being the main reason.

Edwards is getting up there in age, but his stats say something different. I think a 2 year deal would definately be worthy. Screw it...take Hawk too.

Re: RE: Donnie Edwards and Ricky Manning Jr. on the block
 

... it sounds so crazy, it may just work... as long as no one notices we traded the #2 to 2 different teams...

:broccoli:

RE: Re: RE: Donnie Edwards and Ricky Manning Jr. on the bloc
 

[quote]Ricky Manning is toast. He got beat out by Ken Lucas AND Chris Gamble for starting spots. He has tried to live off his name since the playoffs when they went to the Superbowl. If he is anything more than a nikcel, pass. Which means I wouldn't give up more than a 5th or 6th rounder for him.

Agreed. Plus Edwards is just too old for that money. Let him go to die somewhere else. I want some young talent. We need to build a team to compete in 2-3 years. I think we might get about .500. Maybe 9-7 or 10-6, but realististly we're looking at a year or two.

LOL.....I'm hoping that was a typo on Cheramie's part....If I'm thinking what he meant, then he meant our 2nd round pick for Edwards....at least I hope that is what it was. I wouldn't give up the 2nd pick in the draft for a 33 year old linebacker....no matter how many tackles he had last year...lol

Maybe not a 2nd pick, but a 2nd or maybe a third rounder. Edwards is really good guys. He had like 149 tackles last year....I wouldn't say that the guy is on his last leg yet. He's is worth a 2 or 3 year deal and he is probably a better bet then Simmons. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the Saints got Simmons, but Edwards would be a great pick up too.

Edwards for 2-3 years, or Hawk for 10? Not even a choice IMO. Hawk 10 times out of 10. Edwards is good and all, but he played in a 3-4, and is 33. Again, he may have a couple good years left, but not as many as Hawk has ahead of him. If it allowed us to move down and get a DT, I could be tempted, as long as he didn't command a high salary, and we didn't have to give up a lot to get him. If we got a third from somewhere, I could see it. But other than that, pass. Take Hawk.

I totally agree Whodi. I don't think the Saints should trade a 2nd overall pick....I was saying a 2nd round or maybe a third rounder. I think having a proven veteran is probably better for the short term, but I think Hawk would be the wiser choice for obvious reasons.

Also, I forgot about the fact that Edwards played in a 3-4. That probably wouldn't help.

I really hope the Saints draft Hawk, we really need LB help.

I know we are all glad we didn't sign Manning Jr. now. This dude is a punk, Facing assault charges for beating some guy up in a Denny's in Cali.

yeah he was a little ***** when he played for the baby bears(ucla)..had a couple of my homeboys who met him say that he was "tryin ta thug".....
glad we passed ........period.