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http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9382793

A very interesting piece on the top prospects coming out. I'll note the 3 that caught my interest. There are 13 more at the article.

I don't know if he'd make it to 34 or not, but he's an appealling prospect to me.

I'd be shocked if he fell to 34, but I'd love to have him on this team.

If he's there #2, do we take him? That my friends is the million dollar question. We don't really need him, but he seems remarkable.

Manny Lawson intrigues me. Not cause of this article, but cause he played across from the great Mario Willaims, and yet nothing from both of them in the big games. Why was neither of them able to go off in the big games if at least one of them was getting double teams? They both seem like workout warriors to me.

Joseph, I like.

Bush, take him and trade him for an assload of picks, or a pro bwol player and some picks. no way on keeping him.

WhoDi, perhaps it would be better for you to refer to them as:

The Immortal Mario Williams
and
Future Hall-of-Fame Linebacker Manny Lawson

It will avoid confusion. 8)

True, true. :D

Haha!

Here are my thoughts:

All three of those guys sound like great players. Joseph is probably going to be a very good pro, and at worst a serviceable one because of his intellect and knowledge of the game. Lawson sounds like a beast who was trapped in the shadow of "immortal Mario." I would like to take both of those guys, however, where would we take them? I believe that if Nick Mangold is going to be there at #34, we HAVE to take him. We just simply don't have a center right now and so it is, IMO, our biggest hole. Plus, this guy is supposed to be one of the best centers to come out in the draft in a while, so.... I think if he's there, he HAS to be our pick.

And about Bush, I know that whodi has said that we shouldn't take him, but I just feel that if we can't get a decent trade for him, we will need to take him. Hands down he is just one of the most amazing athletes any of us will ever see. His speed, strength, balance, vision, etc. etc. is just unparalleled by any player in recent college memory. I say take him. If people can argue that we should take Mario Williams even though we have Charles Grant and Will Smith; then I sure as hell can argue that we should take Reggie even though we have Deuce. Besides, Reggie never takes plays off, and he always showed up for the big games unlike somebody I know...

I didn't say don't take Bush, Is aid take him and trade him off for pretty much whatever we want. Some of the same reasons I don't want us to take Mario(no need besides the obvious) is the same reason I don't wanna keep Bush(no need, Deuce highest contract ever for a Saint).

While Williams and Bush are both very good prospects, they do not fill an immediate need for the Saints. The team was 3-13 for a reason...that reason is that we arent a very good team. We need players to come in and play in the positions where we really need to upgrade. No need to spend the number 2 pick in the draft to bolster depth at an already settled position.

Exactly.

Quick, someone get a moderater over here to see that we agree on something!!

Once again. i like Johnathan Sullivan. The guy was a steal getting him at 6.

Football related.

:shock: JB, I hope that was a joke. 8)

That was most definitely a joke. I am just trying to shed a little light on the subject. No harm intended. Rest assured fellas, i am just here for fun...nothing else.

I am just here to steal Diva (or at least her avatars) away from B&B.

Under the needs based approach, it seems to me that we have to take Brick, as he provides the best value at a position that is notoriously difficult to fill.

Makes sense. Not exactly who i want but i cant be upset if that is indeed the pick.

Wouldn't be mad at a pick of D'Brick, but if they take Hawk, even at two, i'd be FAR happier. We'd have good-great linemen in the past 10-15 years, we have not had good-great LBs.

Pretty sad to say, but i think the best middle linebacker we have had in the last 10 years is Winfred Tubbs. It sure would be nice to see someone step in there and change that.

hawk isnt really a middle LB though... which is why i hope we pick up abdul hodge or dqwell jackson in the 2nd

BUSH...I say there's no way we pass on him if he's there. And if we take him at #2, then we would have to be prepared to keep him. The "take him then trade him" isn't a lock. Who's to say teams won't just continously lowball us since they know he's not a need for us? Plus, we don't know how Deuce will rebound from this injury. I don't think we should be held hostage by his contract if he doesn't bounce back. If he's disappointing this year he should restructure and be the team player that everyone says he is. If not, we could bite the bullet and take the cap hit. I am definitely not of the opinion that Deuce is untouchable. Bush would be a significant upgrade over Deuce.

The sad thing is, pretty much anyone in the top 5 would be a significant upgrade over any of our guys that are starting at that position for us.......Brees with his injury, Duece with his, Brick at the tackle, Hawk at the LB and Williams at the DE.....granted, i kno someone is gunna jump on me with the whole "rookies are unproven and veterans are better" and blah blah blah....but ya kno what.....our guys have PROVEN that they arent all that hot...otherwise wed be pickin around the 28 spot....so......and as for the Bush talk...yea, we pickd Duece when we had Ricky, but i think our FO kinda had a feeling ricky was gunna be shipped out pretty soon.....so that leads us to 2 different spots, QB and RB, so dont be too suprised to hear one of those names pickd, i think Duece has a better chance of being shipped than Brees, but thats just my 2 cents.....

Hawk can play any LB position easily. He was the leader of Ohio State's defense. Don't try to pigeon hole the man. He is exactly what we need.

and he can do it at the same time... while reading a book and making supper and saving the lives of 10 people in a building on fire... b/c he is really superman in disguise....

Your sarcasm shows you can't find a better argument. I think you are the only person left on this site who doesn't think Hawk can play MLB. Kudos. 8)

It's really odd, that while we're having this discussion about A.J. Hawk playing ILB, ESPN is running it's draft special & they're talking about how well Hawk could play ILB. They've shown several highlights of Ohio State playing him at ILB in certain situations & he's making great plays like drawing the center & guard to him so his other LB's can run free to make a play. Or he's blasting through the interior line against a team like Texas & drilling the QB for a loss.

Just thought I'd mention that. :wink:

Yikes, that's rough on pak. Pretty ironic that would be happening right now. Is ESPN making this up pak? Do you believe he could play ILB now? :lol:

i didnt say he couldnt play it... i said he was better suited for an OLB position...

It's all gravy. I don't care what LB postion he plays in the NFL as long as he's playing it in Black & Gold. 8) This franchise really needs this guy.

Well if you felt he could play it, why all he negative comments? And the "well, whodi says he culd play ILB, but all the experts say he should play OLB?" We shouldn't have even had this discussion if you knew he could play it. :roll:

well hell i can play inside LB that doesnt mean im best suited for that position...

I didn't know you were eligible for this year's draft. :roll:

Though you have youth on your side Pak, I think I would rather take our chances with A.J. Hawk. :wink:

u guys sure? im pretty quick...

So was Tebucky Jones :?