Chargers could bolt
 

SAN DIEGO (AP) -- Cash-strapped San Diego doesn't have the money to help the Chargers build a new stadium, Mayor Jerry Sanders said Friday, opening the door for Southern California's only NFL team to leave the city it has called home for 45 years.

Sanders said he plans to ask the City Council to amend the Chargers' lease to allow the team to begin looking at sites elsewhere in San Diego County before the end of the year. If the team fails to find a new home in the county before Jan. 1, the Chargers would be free to negotiate a deal anywhere in the country.

The Chargers can leave San Diego after the 2008 season if they pay off the approximately $60 million in bonds the city issued in 1997 to expanded Qualcomm Stadium.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

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Good. Maybe L.A. will leave our franchise alone & start focusing on stealing one already in their own state. :roll:

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the L.A. Chargers... kinda has a nice ring to it...

What's funny is, the deal the Chargers offered the city to stay, was about as opposite as what Benson is getting as you could get. Chargers owners would pay for the new stadium, and allow the city to use it for no fee for whatever they wanted outside of football season. And a lot more just great concessions on their part, and all they asked for was for some land near the stadium to build, I don't know what, and a long term deal. San D was in such disarray at the time with legal troubles for their city council they never responded, and I don't know if the deal was simply pulled or what. But I think if LA had a choice between us and the Chargers, they would take the Chargers. We might be able to close that door, except Tags said he expects to have two teams in the L.A. area. Wonder if the new commish would feel the same.

Yeah here's the deal... Yeah I'll pay 450 million and other buisness kick in another 350 million which is a lot for nothing in return for buisness... then the city would only have to hand over 60 aches of land for the owner of the team to develop and do as he pleases with it... DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH PROPERTY IS OUT HERE??? Its a catch 22 here, everyone wants to live here but you come and you can't find work that will allow you to stay here... Property value is SKY HIGH. a small shack in say Houma, Louisiana will go for 2 million here. Its not a very good deal for the city... with the budget crisis the city is in here even worse. The city will be better off holding the property... are having to use imminet domain to get it for the owner screw that.

Yeah, this is a crap deal:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/colum...3dstateChanged

What was I thinking? :roll:

i can imagine how expensive it is there euph. i can see what you are saying. if it was costing that state nothing as whodi acts then they would already have a deal. nothing is free

saintswhodi... You are missing the point here...

The mayor is calling the chargers bluff is all... Mayor said hey you can't build it at the qualcom grounds that is a viable staduim still and can still be used, so if you want a new place and you want to build it go ahead. Chargers can't do it and heres why...

Problem 1... the cost of the land will be expensive because land is outregous here. They can't afford to do that... (they can afford to hand over 450 million for a staduim but can't buy land... its to expensive).

problem 2... the deal is chargers pay 450 million for the stadium and local buisness fork over 350 million, they haven't found the backers for this... no one is coming forward with 350 million.

problem 3... there will be no increase in revenew except in a SB year and they aren't garenteed they would get more than one.

problem 4... the money just isn't here its all in land.

its a bluff... and the mayor is going to win this one, for now. Chargers aren't going and there is no worries here in SD... no panic going on.

I'm sorry, unless ESPN is falsely reporting this deal, it says the Chargers will build a new stadium and pay for every penny of it. This is from ESPN. Do you have a link to what you are saying? Why would they offer to pay to build a stadium they couldn't afford? THAT makes no sense.

..not everyone wants to go to San Diego. I sure don't. It's full of Mexicans.

Sure land is expensive in any mayor city... but they are talking about land that is presently occupied by the stadium and its parking lots. So what's the difference?

Tell you want, a freaking empty Qualcomm stadium is not going to be good for the city.

and you are a mexican. although i couldn't agree with you tobias. send out the mexican men but let in the women. if you could stay great. if you had to go i don't care. just keep the ladies please

UGH... why make this bigger than what it is... that is the deal they can build it if they want to and the Chargers plan is to have the local buisness pitch in 350 million and they can't raise it as of yet this has been going on since at least Jan. The mayor just yesterday said they are free of the lease and can search for a site to build within the county. ITS IN THE NEWS HERE... TV. They may eventually get the full 800 million but its going to be more. The city can't afford to take a loss on anything on this anymore so they are being very guarded. If ESPN is reporting that is the chargers plans then I am sure it is... but I am saying what is the problems with what is all going on from the local news here.

It won't be empty there is still a lot that goes on there, festivals, other ball games... its a viable staduim still, it will not be empty.

http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/site/...470&ct=2222369
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/14400426.htm

I am so offended I am being asked for link...

you funny...
but not off base entirely...
As the demographic changes here in Southern Cali, then so does its wants..
This is the reason L.A. won't be able to support an NFL franchise but it can support 2
soccer teams......

Ssssooo, if you agree ESPN's must be reporting the correct plan, which is once again, the rest is:

Tell me when it gets bad. If you don't have a link to what you're saying, I ain't buying it. Get as offended as you want. If this is SUCH a huge issue in San Diego, which I have to imagine it is, SOMEONE wrote an article about it. As it stands, I am gonna go off what ESPN reported, and continue to believe this is the best deal that I have ever seen offered to a city by an NFL team, and think San Diego is foolish for not jumping on it. As Tobias said:

What's the difference?

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Sure does... I think their logo will change from a lightning bolt to a credit card.

Priceless.

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What you are missing is the politics here in San Diego... you don't know what is going on with the atmosphere here. There is more to it than meets the eye.

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And so I ask again for an article or link. SHOW ME what I am not seeing.

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he sent u a freakin link to an article...... and i dont know what that will do anyway... he cant show you the atmosphere through a link to it.... people talk... on TV radio... face to face...not everything can be shown over the internet....

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First, why is it your duty to comment on every response I give to people on the forum? Nothing good to contribute I guess. Second, I asked for a link, cause this is the same guy who told us EVERY Chargers fan was happy Brees was leaving, and when I told him that was untrue, he said I didn't know cause I didn't live in San Diego, not knowing I chat online with fans from ALL teams, including the Chargers, AND that I have seen people switch to being Saints fans from the Chargers simply cause of Brees. So, i'll say to you AGAIN, I hate when people post without knowing their facts.

To Euph, I read where the city said they had too many things on their plate to worry about the Chargers right now, and where it said the deal offered by the Chargers was scrapped. Thanks for the info.

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..I don't know, man... I've seen some .nl and .th sites that say so :broccoli:

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#1 i dont respond to every post u make to people... i was pointing out to you that he had already posted a link to it and didnt seem to understand that...

#2 not everything people say on here has a link to it and that is all you want to see is a link... give me a link... i want a link...where is my link!?!?!?!?

#3 since you say you talk to fans of every team... do you like live on the net? is that all you do? i mean... every other post i see on this site is by you... and its generally disagreeing with any opinion that anyone else seems to have... whether they know their facts or not... it really doesnt matter.... this is a forum for saints fans.. whether they know what they are talking about or not... so i really dont care if you hate when people post without knowing their facts... the real fact is... they dont have to... and i would appreciate it... if you would stop hounding everyone about it....

I don't hound everyone, just you, cause you have a REPEATED pattern of posting negative to what I say, which is no problem, but it is usually just totally incorrect info. Yeah we are all here to talk, and this site is great for that, but i'm not here for people just to make up whatever they want just to disagree with people. But if that's how you roll.................

Second, I moderate an NFL forum not specific to one team. That's why I get to talk to fans of all teams. I come here to talk Saints, cause there aren't many Saints fans on that forum. But one thing I have learned in posting, you gain more credibility having facts for your arguments than not. Maybe you should take notes.................

Third, there are certain people who have a track record on here for providing factual arguments that I would not even question or ask for a link, so that's another blatantly false comment by you, but i'm not surprised. Seems habitual. But when I a guy has already told me I didn't know something about San Diego cause I didn't live there, and I knew it to be COMPLETELY false, well, I am gonna ask for a link from then on, but that's just me. I like to have facts to back up the things I say and believe, I guess not everyone believes facts matter when making a point... :roll: