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LKelley67 05-16-2006 08:32 AM

I'm Tired Of Michael Vick
 
aka Ron Mexico, Mr. Herpes International

The guy has talent without a doubt. However the hype versus real production ratio has entered the realm of an ancient oriental philosophy known as bul****zoo. Aww, he is so good... THAT is why he gets injured so much. Oh, he couldn't run like normal last year because he was lame and didn't want to tell anyone. Oh no, it was his lack of good receivers, THAT is why he couldn't put it all together. Have you read this latest? Take a moment and do-

http://www.ajc.com/tuesday/content/e...042f200bf.html

Pathetic, isn't it? The coaching, THAT is why he hasn't put it all together. Somehow Mora doesn't seem to be as pandering as Haz was to his love child. Vick continuing down the road of bul****zoo and one of them will be gone in another year or two. At least we fans here knew what a tragedy we had developing behind center. It will be a much harder fall to reality for the masses deceived by the former Madden cover boy.

Fran Tarkenton was the first great NFL scrambling QB and rightfully was inducted into the Hall of Fame. Somehow he did make into 3 Superbowls along the way. Vick can still be fun to watch but the novelty has worn off to me. Let him do his thing and be a footnote in history. He has never completed 60% of his passes. His lifetime TD/INT ratio is 5/4. His career passer rating is 75.8. Hell, he has a cousin with better stats than that. If he puts it together, fine. But if not, I hope the "special" player banter subsides into one of those "he coulda been..." rants.

In one way I am glad he is still there with a division rival. I think Matt Schaub has real potential to be a team leader.

Besides, the latest and greatest NFL story is unfolding clad in black and gold in front of us! Today's what-have-you-done-for-me-today? media focus? Regg-gie! in New Orleans!

Tobias-Reiper 05-16-2006 08:54 AM

... actually, enjoy the fact that his fall from grace is going to be tremendous in 2-3 years from now.

Vick is a 1 trick pony... he can run, that's it. He has never showed any real QB skills, not in HS, not in college, and not in Atlanta, other than hrowing the ball far. Once he can't run no more, he's done.

FatiusJeebs 05-16-2006 09:10 AM

I still find it completely absurd and rather upsetting that he even made it to the pro bowl last year. :cursing:

NOSaints 05-16-2006 09:11 AM

YEs, but if he gets injured again, and agrees to move to safety, we might take a look at possibly picking him up in a couple of years. :gun: :monkey: :biggun:

TallySaint 05-16-2006 09:25 AM

Paul McGuire would cry like a baby if he saw this thread.




:(

D_it_up 05-16-2006 12:40 PM

I have been saying all along that Vick is a great athlete, but a horrible QB. He is best suited to play receiver or runningback to utilize his running ability, vision, and awareness. Sure the Falcons receivers are pathetic, but you could split Moss and T.O. on either side with Marvin Harrison in the slot and you'd get the same results from Vick. He's pitiful behind center.

croger1224 05-16-2006 03:01 PM

i dont need to read any more than
Post subject: I'm Tired Of Michael Vick Posted: May 16, 2006 - 02:32 AM
i cant stand him let me know when he breaks his leg brcause he ran for the 25 th time in the first game with gandy blocking for him

MatthewT 05-16-2006 05:43 PM

I do not have any problems with Michael Vick. I think he may lack in some areas, but he is a difference maker. He simply helps the Falcons win games. I do agree that in a few years when his running skills decline, he could possibly be in trouble. He does need to step it up in the passing game. With proper coaching he could turn his passing game around. It is very tough learning the West Coast system that Mora installed, normally takes a few years to master it. I would not rule this guy out just yet, but being a Saints Fan I hope that he sucks big time in the future...

gandhi1007 05-17-2006 09:24 AM

I hope Atlanta keeps starting him. They're in our division & I don't want them to play the good QB they have there against us (Matt Schaub).

LSUJeremy 05-17-2006 09:33 AM

How many times has Vick just about single handedly beat us?

Tobias-Reiper 05-17-2006 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSUJeremy
How many times has Vick just about single handedly beat us?


Never.

D_it_up 05-17-2006 11:27 AM

Quote:

I do not have any problems with Michael Vick. I think he may lack in some areas, but he is a difference maker.
I don't think anyone said he wasn't a difference maker. To say that would be Gridiron Ignorant. He makes all the difference in the world when he scrambles. He's almost impossible to contain. The question at hand is his ability to play the QB position. If he wore a shock collar that zapped him every time he tried to leave the pocket in order to teach him to be a pocket passer, he would barely be a 2nd stringer, IMO.



Quote:

How many times has Vick just about single handedly beat us?
I seem to remember Warrick Dunn running over us like he was Jim Brown. Vick doesn't do it all by himself.

LSUJeremy 05-17-2006 12:50 PM

Y'all know what I mean. There's been more than a couple times the last few years where we were winning in the last couple minutes only to watch him drive them down the field and beat us.

I'm not saying he's a good pocket QB at all, but he's a difference maker. We never seem able to stop him.

9thWardDesire 05-18-2006 01:11 AM

Michael Vick couldn't hit a receiver deep if Stevie Wonder and Tom Benson was covering him.

:crow: GROUND PAT'I!!!

mikesaintfan 05-18-2006 03:44 PM

mike vick or LT...hmmmm
2-3 more years and it will be mike who :twisted:

LongTimeFan 05-18-2006 04:28 PM

Vick is the most overrated player in the NFL..IMO

BiggPoppaFro4 05-18-2006 09:13 PM

Vick is well past overrated....His making the probowl last year was a crime. And Ghandi is right...if Mora starts schaub instead, for what ever reason, then I'm really worried.

Vick did march his team against us a couple of times and props to the NFLs best throwing RB for it, but that was us! At the end of games Haz would put us in the "Oh S***! we have a lead and that can't be right Defense" and we'd lose. Harrington did it to us as well.

Sorry...I get tired of, every year where I'm at, having to explain how Vick is not the Christ, and that he isn't even a top QB....his biggest asset is the press he always gets. I mean, how many more times and how many more years is ESPN gonna run the "this year vick is determined to be a passer by studying really hard" story!?

LongTimeFan 05-19-2006 05:55 AM

It seems that his avg. is 160 yards per game, I've seen a few games where he threw for 110 yards, can't win many games like like being they don't have a big running game.

FatiusJeebs 05-19-2006 08:28 AM

Grrrrrrrrr.....the pro bowl..... :08:

LKelley67 05-21-2006 08:55 PM

even if our beloved black n gold only get back to 8-8 mediocrity I am digging on us having the NFL's new poster boy. Repitituos but damn if it doesn't seem like the football gods are smiling our way. It may have been so bad for so long BUT things can change. Pittsburgh has been one the best most consistent winning franchises since the 70's. I just glanced quickly and only counted THREE winning seasons from 1933 to 1969. A lot of losing and being the dregs of league there. Then, the right front office and just two terriffic coaches since 1969 and they become a league powerhouse. Just as it had to be so sweet for those first Superbowls so it will be here... whenever that is. I am not drunk on kool-aid but it sure feels good to think there is now at least the possibility for positive change, something I haven't sensed in a few years.


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