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Ahmad Brooks, LB, Virginia: A national defensive player of the year coming out of high school, Brooks had an outstanding 2004 season for the Cavaliers in 2004, but got hurt last year.
Jason Berryman, DE, Iowa State: At 6-2 about 240 pounds, he's probably a linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. His Pro Day was postponed to June 13 at Iowa State, and we'll have reports on that.
David Dixon, LB: Dixon is from Galveston, Texas, and last played at Hutchinson Community College in Kansas in 2004.
Ahmad Hall, FB, Texas: Hall served in the Marines and wasn't eligible for the regular draft. He worked out at Texas' Pro Day on March 22 and was measured at 5-10¾, 232 pounds. He ran his 40s in 4.53 and 4.55 and also had a 35-inch vertical jump, 10-foot-9 long jump, 4.20 short shuttle, 7.21 three-cone drill and 24 bench presses.

Michigan State receiver Agim Shabaj

Brooks - says he did what he did because he did not grow up. has he grown up now? Funny how millions lost makes you grow up fast.
Berryman - dismissed on robery (robbed 2 students of money and cell phone) and damaging a car.
Dixon - left college because of the book stuff. but loads of talent
Hall - did his time in the service. Sounds like a good back up FB since we do not have one. Training camp should be a cake walk after boot. I bet he can put the hurting to a defender.

Are these the only players out there?

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found a bit more

Jason Berryman, defensive end/outside linebacker, Iowa State – After Brooks, Berryman is most likely to be drafted. He has shown pass rush potential off the edge in the Big 12, recording 12 tackles and five sacks and being named MVP of the 2005 EV1.net Houston Bowl, but he also dealt with several off-field issues, including being dismissed from the team after being cited at a local night club for being on the premises underage. Berryman had previously been suspended from Iowa State's team for the 2004 season after being convicted of theft and assault charges. He served 258 days in jail, but had seemingly turned the corner before his late January run-in at the club.

A Houston native, Berryman has been training on-campus in Ames, Iowa, and announced this week that his pro day workout will be held on June 13. He is being closely evaluated by teams that employ the 3-4 scheme, as his 6-foot-3, 250-pound frame and explosive up-field rush skills could make him an ideal fit as an edge rusher. He has also hired former IMG rep Ken Kremer, who now works for CAA Sports, as his player representative.

David Dixon, linebacker, Hutchinson (Kan.) Community College – Dixon, who was one of the top-rated defenders in the junior college ranks, failed to qualify academically at Kansas State, but he is noted for his speed and athleticism, running in the 4.4 range, leaping between 42 to 44 inches in the vertical jump and bench-pressing over 450 pounds. He had 161 tackles, including a total of 43 tackles behind the line of scrimmage, 8½ sacks and five blocked kicks, which gave him a total of 10 in just two years.

"He's the best athlete I have ever seen at this level", said longtime NFL scout Tom Marino of Dixon. "He's just not big into school work, but he has all the instincts, physical tools and natural talent to become a starting linebacker in the NFL one day."

Dixon just turned 21 years old this past February, so combined with his eye-opening workout numbers, impressive natural size (6-2, 245 pounds) and on-field talents, he should warrant a lot of consideration if he gains eligibility to July's draft

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

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Throw a sixth rounder at Dixon... I'm intrigued by his attributes. Nevermind he has issues so Payton will never go for it.

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book issues bets criminal. He may only want to study football.

How many players actually get taken in the sup draft?
instead of using one of next years picks why not wait and see if we can sign one or more as free agents after the draft.

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The only one I would even consider is that FB from Texas, but I don't know if you really need two FBs. He sounds like a high character guy, maybe he could be the "Admiral" of the NFL like David Robinson was of the NBA. Brooks, no way. I don't want anybody with that kind of baggage on this team. He has no work ethic and he's a troublemaker. Not to mention we have our starting LB corps in place now. Berryman, no thanks. I don't want an armed robber playing on a team I root for. Besides, we drafted Ninkovich, I don't think we need another mediocre DE. Dixon, hell no. I don't want retards on my team.

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Ahmad Brooks, LB, Virginia: A national defensive player of the year coming out of high school, Brooks had an outstanding 2004 season for the Cavaliers in 2004, but got hurt last year.

I love 260 lb linebackers that can run. I would go as high as a fourth rounder for him.

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I'd bid a fourth also... nothing higher because of his character issues. But look at it this way, Odell Thurman had issues and look what he's doing for Cincy. So, there are exceptions to everything.

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Yeah but Odell Thurman wasn't suspended like three times and finally given the boot by his coach. Odell Thurman also never gained about 70 pounds of fat before a season rendering him utterly useless to his team.

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Brooks for a 4 hmm
the rest skip?
I would like to interview dixon. 6-2 245 and 4.4 range speed. I am thinking practice squad here. We have most of the LB under 1 year contracts. If he comes up to show that the only thing he wants to study is football. Then thats ok.
Hall would be the workout buddy Karney needs. Wonder if he can catch and tackle. Might make a good stud on Special teams as a UFA

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I remember Haslett looking at him before the draft, and I had hoped we'd take a chance on him after seeing him at UGA for a few years. He worked out for the Bengals and Marvin Lewis, but the chance they took this year on A.J. Nicholson (FSU) has backfired.

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Aren't we exaggerating a bit here? Everyone has their skeletons, it doesn't mean they don't deserve another chance. Throwing out a 4th or 5th rounder at the guy could be a low risk high reward for us. I think it would be stupid not to consider it.

"The Bengals took another player with a history of being difficult to control last year and got mixed results. Linebacker Odell Thurman played wonderfully as a rookie but gave Lewis a few headaches in the process. Sources say he was fined close to $90,000 over the course of the season for various violations of team rules, though Lewis refused to confirm that." - Taken from sportingnews.com

More stuff on Odell Thurman. His wonderlic score was a 12. He was suspended over 5 games at Georgia for violating team rules. Prior to the 2002 season, Thurman was kicked off the team by headcoach Mark Richt. After he got kicked off, he attended Georgia Military Academy where he continued to be a cancer to that team. So umm... need I say more? :roll:

:lol: That was too easy.

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give thurman time. curious to see if he'll try to one-up henry and nicholson.

do you think lewis would like a re-do with some of these guys?

Cincinnati has the smallest scouting department in the league, BY FAR. In fact, it usually falls on whomever is their head coach to do a lot of the scouting, which, for most teams, isn't the case. Thus, details about these players are often missed by the Bengals, cause that's pretty hard to be head couch and scout thoroughly. I am sure due to these recent incidents, the ownership will be forced to expand their scouting capabilities.

Henry yes... he seems to never learn his lesson. He has some mental issues. Nicholson on the other hand let's wait and see. He might get his act together. As far as Thurman, nah. His talent and what he brings to that linebacking corps right now outweighs these minor infractions he's been having.

None of them is worth a middle or late role pick. We should just wait and see if we can pick them up as free agents. I bet that's what every team is thinging. Why give up a draft pick for the headaches Brooks, berryman and Dixon might bring.