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LKelley67 09-02-2006 01:58 PM

Cut Names Worth Considering
 
Monty Biesell LB NE

SAINTSFAN834 09-02-2006 02:05 PM

RE: Cut Names Worth Considering
 
Omar Jacobs, QB PITT

lumm0x 09-02-2006 02:28 PM

RE: Cut Names Worth Considering
 
We didn't want Colby...why would we want his twin brother Monty?
Watching that Pats-Giants game Biesel displayed probably the worst tackling I've ever seen.

Although Jacobs sounds interesting A-Mac was a better keeper option than Bouman and we made that move, so I can't see Payton shooting for another young project right now.

BlackandBlue 09-02-2006 02:29 PM

RE: Cut Names Worth Considering
 
not that we need either, but i just saw where ron dayne and darrius watts were cut by the broncos.

D24pick 09-02-2006 03:38 PM

RE: Cut Names Worth Considering
 
Get Jacobs for #3, then add AMAC to the PS

xan 09-02-2006 03:42 PM

RE: Cut Names Worth Considering
 
I don't think AMac is eligible for the PS this year, is he? There were plenty of reasonably talented linemen and LB's that we could pick up. Hopefully one of these guys would get a look and upgrade the team. I just hope we don't sign another FA Safety or WR.

SAINTSFAN834 09-02-2006 05:42 PM

RE: Cut Names Worth Considering
 
Yes, AMAC is eligible as it is based on # of games active, not just on roster.

lumm0x 09-02-2006 10:29 PM

RE: Cut Names Worth Considering
 
DT Chad Lavalais- cut by Atlanta. I thought he looked solid last year and we could use the DT.

BlackandBlue 09-03-2006 08:59 AM

Re: RE: Cut Names Worth Considering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lumm0x
DT Chad Lavalais- cut by Atlanta. I thought he looked solid last year and we could use the DT.

he ate his way off the roster.

saw that lance mitchell was cut by the cardinals. really liked this guy coming out of oklahoma, if he could only stay healthy. like the 2nd coming of cie grant.....

LKelley67 09-03-2006 10:54 AM

CB Duane Starks Oak

LB Danny Clark Raiders
"That one was hard on me, that one was the hardest," Shell said of releasing Clark. "He gave us everything he had, worked hard. Not to say the rest of them didn't, but this kid was demoted to the second team and he worked his tail off and never said a word, just kept working. Hopefully he'll catch on with somebody." Art Shell

Michael Haynes DE Chicago

OG Chris Liwienski Minny

achillesjaden 09-03-2006 12:15 PM

How many of you agree that we should have kept Jamaal Branch over Aaron Stecker. It must be the Aaron Curse.

gandhi1007 09-03-2006 12:46 PM

I think the plan was to keep both. Jamaal Branch is going to the practice squad. This may have been a smart move after all.

MJS2k7 09-03-2006 12:54 PM

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LB Danny Clark Raiders
"That one was hard on me, that one was the hardest," Shell said of releasing Clark. "He gave us everything he had, worked hard. Not to say the rest of them didn't, but this kid was demoted to the second team and he worked his tail off and never said a word, just kept working. Hopefully he'll catch on with somebody." Art Shell
i'd take a chance here...

MJS2k7 09-03-2006 01:01 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...e?statsId=5275

MJS2k7 09-03-2006 01:20 PM

I think freddie roach got cut as well...if so, he'd be a good backup linebacker.

Quote:

SUMMARY
Roach is a good athlete with good instincts and toughness, but he does not deal well with blockers and is not a consistently productive player. He tends to make most of his plays downfield because even when he uses his hands well against blockers, he tends to back up and give ground. While Roach has flashed the ability and willingness to fill the hole aggressively and the strength to stack the point of attack, he does not consistently get free to make the play and often he just gets tied up in the hole while the ball carrier runs right by him. He is a smart and instinctive linebacker, which helps him to do a solid job in zone coverage and to pick up running backs on short routes, but he lacks the playing speed and explosiveness to stay with RBs and tight ends down the field in man-to-man coverage. Does not use his hands well against low blocks and struggles to move around in traffic to make plays -- he needs a clear path to the ball to make plays. Overall, Roach has the ability to start at middle linebacker in the NFL, but he is not productive enough. Will do well in short-yardage situations and on special teams.



STRONG POINTS
Roach is a tough linebacker who can fill the gap aggressively, has the strength to stand up the lead blocker in the hole, free up and make the tackle. Has good instincts, which helps him consistently read and react to the play. Smooth and fluid dropping off the ball in zone coverage, reads the quarterback well and breaks and closes on the ball quickly to make the tackle right after the catch. Flashes the quick hands to jolt the blocker to stay free.



WEAKNESSES
Roach does not move through traffic well -- gets bumped around and struggles against low blocks in traffic. Does not use his hands consistently against blockers, and once a blocker gets a hold of him, he struggles to consistently shed and make plays. While he has athleticism to pick up running backs out of the backfield, he lacks the playing speed to stay with RBs and tight ends down the field. Lacks explosiveness to finish plays consistently.



MJS2k7 09-03-2006 01:28 PM

some other guys worth considering:

Stephon leflors qb-better than bouman.
http://www.nfl.com/transactions

Duane Starks CB
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12727

ScottyRo 09-03-2006 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by achillesjaden
How many of you agree that we should have kept Jamaal Branch over Aaron Stecker. It must be the Aaron Curse.

I'm very disappointed about Branch. See, just because Branch gets signed to our practice squad doesn't mean he can't be signed by another team. I'm not sure as to the exact procedure and rules, but I've heard this before. So, in reality he'll be as available to anyone else as he is to the Saints. That's why I'd have kept him over Stecker, who I've always liked, but for the money difference and the way Branch had played, Branch would have been my guy.

hagan714 09-03-2006 01:55 PM

I go with danny clark oakland also. that is a cut that made no sense. just look at the #s from the last 2 yrs.

Year Team ................G Total Tckl Ast Sacks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
2004 Oakland Raiders 16 129 ..98.0 31 ...2 ......0 ...0 ...0.0 ..0 ...0 ....5
2005 Oakland Raiders 16 113 ..82.0 31 ...1 ......0 ...0 ...0.0 ..0 ...0 ....7

Okay you DE freaks here is guy to put in your 100+ tackles a year and he is 29. now go for the 4 year deal and dump him at 33.

gandhi1007 09-03-2006 02:01 PM

Duane Starks would be an upgrade at the #2 CB position for us.

D24pick 09-03-2006 04:37 PM

Starks is like 50 yrs old, go with the younger just as good player in Warfield, add Clark and a few corners

BlackandBlue 09-03-2006 04:47 PM

if starks is 50, that would mean warfield is 48.

papz 09-03-2006 04:49 PM

I like Warfield... we should bring him in for a look. As far as Starks... good lord when was the last time he was healthy.

BlackandBlue 09-03-2006 04:58 PM

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Jul. 12 - 10:44 pm et

NFL suspended Chiefs cornerback Eric Warfield for four games for violating the league's substance abuse policy.

Warfield has been arrested for multiple DUIs. The Chiefs knew Warfield was going to be suspended, but this suspension is probably two games longer than they hoped. Ashley Ambrose is currently slated to start opposite Patrick Surtain, but the Chiefs secondary could still use another live body.
while he is a decent cover corner, payton's no-bs attitude has me doubting that he even gets a look.

papz 09-03-2006 05:10 PM

Ahh... I wasn't aware of his substance abuse problem. Get he's out of the question... next.

Tobias-Reiper 09-03-2006 05:13 PM

..brings back memories of one Dale Carter...


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