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nedly 10-25-2006 07:31 AM

Laron Landry
 
What do yall think about gettin this guy? He probably won't be there when the Saints pick last next spring' but this guy looks like the real deal. A complete monster who will instill fear in all downfield recievers! I know we have some good safetys, but not like Laron. He shall be called Laronnie lott.

hagan714 10-25-2006 07:51 AM

RE: Laron Landry
 
hate to say it but his game needs alot of work. he does not tackle that well. Nfl WR and RB will bounce off alot of those hits. he does not wrap up.

saintswhodi 10-25-2006 09:11 AM

Re: RE: Laron Landry
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714
hate to say it but his game needs alot of work. he does not tackle that well. Nfl WR and RB will bounce off alot of those hits. he does not wrap up.

What Laron Landry are you watching? This couldn't be more incorrect. He isn't the #1 safety in college cause he's a sucker.

saintbuck 10-25-2006 09:22 AM

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Guys a baller, just dont know if we need him

saintswhodi 10-25-2006 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by saintbuck
Guys a baller, just dont know if we need him

Well, with Roman blowing out his knee, and not being all that impressive to begin with, he may not get the chance to be what he never was, if ya follow what i'm saying. Landry is like a LB at S, with speed. We could play him how Carolina plays Thomas Davis. Or we could just draft a LB. Either way.

hagan714 10-25-2006 11:29 AM

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I follow you whoodi.
still after watching two games this year fla. and auburn I was impressed with his size and all but he tackles with his body. he relizes on the big hit too much. he needs to use his arms in tackling. in the nfl that will not work. he will be a good player but in order for us to get him it would not be worth it. he just is not worth the price.
After 6 games we are picking 29th and the last of the 2 loss teams is picking 19th. if the draft was today. statistics say we will be picking in this range by the end of the season. 32th to 19th
but would trading up at least 5 spots in the draft be worth it? i would rather spend the picks on another player. i do not think he will last past 14.

Bobaganoosh 10-25-2006 12:44 PM

Laron is a great player, he is a local guy, and we all like to watch him play, but he will not be with the Saints next year. He is going to be a high pick, more than likely the first DB taken and certainly the first safety and the Saints have a lot invested in their two young safeties. I just hope LaRon goes to an AFC team because i would hate to have to root against him like i have to root against Michael Clayton. If you want an LSU guy to get drafted by the Saints, it would be more realistic to hope for Dwayne Bowe in the 2nd round or Craig Davis later on in the draft. Horn getting up in age, Henderson not panning out, and Copper, Moore, and Jones are mainly special teamers.

saintswhodi 10-25-2006 01:25 PM

Wait hagan, I never said anything about moving up to get him or anything. I was just speaking on your take on his tackling. I felt it was not 100% accurate, but it's your opinion so it's all good. I disagree with that. But if LaRon somehow fell to us, I think we'd take him in a second. Roman Harper could equal Mel Mitchell after an injury like this, and our D-line and LBs haven't been terrible, they've actually been fairly decent. And we need secondary help in the worst way, especially if Harper doesn't pan out. But I wouldn't trade up. Maybe we look CB early, and WR in the second like Bob said. But I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss LaRon.

oneputtmike 10-25-2006 01:56 PM

Hagen the draft doesn't work totally like that once in the playoff's when you lose is where you pick you could be 16-0 lose the first round and pick before the teams that get to the conf. finals

LSUJeremy 10-25-2006 04:34 PM

Re: RE: Laron Landry
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714
hate to say it but his game needs alot of work. he does not tackle that well. Nfl WR and RB will bounce off alot of those hits. he does not wrap up.

As a freshman in 2003 Landry led LSU in tackles. The year they won the NC.

We need to draft either a corner, DT, or OL with that 1st pick anyway.

wheelman 10-25-2006 04:35 PM

One thing to consider about Landry is that he was recruited as a CB. He was moved to safety because of the injury to Gay in the 2003 season since Sabban felt more comfortable with the veteran Daniels at corner.

LSUJeremy 10-25-2006 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelman
One thing to consider about Landry is that he was recruited as a CB. He was moved to safety because of the injury to Gay in the 2003 season since Sabban felt more comfortable with the veteran Daniels at corner.

I think he was always going to be a safety. He was rated as one of the top ones coming out of HS.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=69&p=8&c=1&nid=222624

XtremeSaint 10-27-2006 06:49 AM

Yea he was originally a safety but they have so much talent that they had to play him somewheres.

papz 10-27-2006 05:17 PM

#1 Meriweather, Miami
#2 Landry, LSU

wheelman 10-27-2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by papz
#1 Meriweather, Miami
#2 Landry, LSU

The same guy Joe Addai schooled in the Peach Bowl? I don't think so.

papz 10-27-2006 05:39 PM

It's a team game.

hagan714 10-27-2006 06:38 PM

:P I knew I could stir up a hornests nest on this one.
I know whoodi, you never said move up to get him.
I do not think he is worth even considering for what it would take in picks to get him.
As far as the draft goes. The math says we will finsh no worse than the 19th pick in this year draft based on our record. the best we could do is win it all and pick 32. Statistists our on our side. 95% CI for those of you who know Stats. the other 5 % has to do with a complete melt down and the superbowl. I just had throw the superbowl winner pick in because that is were we want to go.
Still he is 2-3 years away from being a solid starting nfl player.
Got to poke that nest one more time

LSUJeremy 10-27-2006 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by papz
#1 Meriweather, Miami
#2 Landry, LSU

In every article I've seen about next years draft class Landry is always number one, and that was before the Miami brawl.

With Meriweather on tape stomping on the FIU player you can bet his draft stock has dropped.

saintswhodi 10-27-2006 07:34 PM

Landry is the best safety in the country. Period. Zbkowski is close cause he adds the dimension of returning kicks, but Landry can play either safety position and excel.
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I knew I could stir up a hornests nest on this one.
I know whoodi, you never said move up to get him.
I do not think he is worth even considering for what it would take in picks to get him.
You stir up a Hornet's nest by making things up? At any rate, if we did pick 19, or anywhere after that, and Landry is on the board, it's a good choice. As far as you saying he is not NFL ready, that's making stuff up again to start some crap. Try harder.

Bobaganoosh 10-27-2006 07:58 PM

One of Landry's biggest things he has going for him is that he is the most NFL ready of all the DB's with maybe the exception of Leon Hall. He has played in complex, NFL style defenses and he is going to make an impact somewhat along the lines of Polamalu...i think he is going to be a stud from day one.

hagan714 10-29-2006 05:28 AM

after the auburn and florida games i thought he was good but not dominate. he missed some key plays. Polamalu was not missing those type of plays when he was in college. I still say he will have to tackle better at the next level. The big hit in college will not always work in the NFL. The WR and RB will bounce off them. just like in those two games. That is not made up.
I did not know he moved over from a CB. that explains alot. that fact alone puts him in a better light. Potiental wise.
as far as poking the nest it was because he is a LSU boy and thats it. being alone supporter of Tulane at a many LSU games I knew the reaction i was going to get. so i know all to well the nest I was poking.

chRxis 10-29-2006 03:50 PM

i love laron landry, but he has a lot to learn before getting to the nfl.... he is not the best tackler, often going for the highlight reel hit rather than wrapping up the ball carrier... we need defensive help but the safety spot is not a position that we really need a lot of help at.... we have to get corner help asap, and in my opinion, if patrick willis or paul poluszny is still there, they are almost no-brainer picks, just like reggie.... our defensive and offensive lines need help, but have overacheived this year and with decent veterans added via free agency, we'll be a lot better.... simply put, he's going to be good, but just not for us... also, i don't think he could add the weight and still be productive and quick like thomas davis did, so that option would be out for laron

saintswhodi 10-30-2006 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chRxis
i love laron landry, but he has a lot to learn before getting to the nfl.... he is not the best tackler, often going for the highlight reel hit rather than wrapping up the ball carrier... we need defensive help but the safety spot is not a position that we really need a lot of help at.... we have to get corner help asap, and in my opinion, if patrick willis or paul poluszny is still there, they are almost no-brainer picks, just like reggie.... our defensive and offensive lines need help, but have overacheived this year and with decent veterans added via free agency, we'll be a lot better.... simply put, he's going to be good, but just not for us... also, i don't think he could add the weight and still be productive and quick like thomas davis did, so that option would be out for laron

Not the best tackler? What? Do you think he is rated the best safety in the country cause of his looks? Laron goes for the knockout blow when a player is being wrapped uo by anothe rLSU defender. I have seen him make NUMEROUS open field tackles and tackles in one and one situations to know he is a fine tackler, who also has the ability to deliver the big hit. And also, it's your opinion he couldn't add weight and still be productive like Davis, it's my opinion he could.
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after the auburn and florida games i thought he was good but not dominate. he missed some key plays. Polamalu was not missing those type of plays when he was in college. I still say he will have to tackle better at the next level. The big hit in college will not always work in the NFL. The WR and RB will bounce off them. just like in those two games. That is not made up.
I did not know he moved over from a CB. that explains alot. that fact alone puts him in a better light. Potiental wise.
as far as poking the nest it was because he is a LSU boy and thats it. being alone supporter of Tulane at a many LSU games I knew the reaction i was going to get. so i know all to well the nest I was poking.
First, Polamalu and Laron are not the same type of safety, AND if you think Polamalu didn't miss plays at USC, you didn't see them play much. EVERY player misses plays. That's a universal truth. Second, I have no idea what tackles you are talking about LaRon "bouncing off of" against Florida and Auburn. You must have his number confused with someone else. LaRon made several key tackles in both games, especially against Auburn, when our D was holding Kenny Irons down and stalling their offense. Irons got a few good runs, but he's a great back. and he still only got 2.8 yards per carry. A great back sometimes beats a great defender, especially when theyhave momentum. The only play I remember LaRon looking poor on was when he was trying to get into position for a tackle, and Irons already had a head of steam and carried him back for a few yards. That happens. Doesn't mean he can't tackle. I saw Ronnie Brown lay the wood to the current Troy Polamalu when Miami played Pittsburgh this year, that's not gonna make me say Polamalu can't tackle. It happens. LaRon also had 12 tackles against florida, was all over the field, and the announcers repeatedly commented on what a great football player he was. Maybe that national announcing crew were closet LSU fans or something, I don't know. But if you are gonna knock LaRon, it should be something real,

chRxis 10-30-2006 07:19 PM

oh yeah.... i forgot whodi, you already have all the answers... i'm so sorry for posting anything here... what was i thinking....

saintswhodi 10-31-2006 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chRxis
oh yeah.... i forgot whodi, you already have all the answers... i'm so sorry for posting anything here... what was i thinking....

Right, exactly why I said:

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And also, it's your opinion he couldn't add weight and still be productive like Davis, it's my opinion he could.
It's called an opinion. If you give one, expect someone who may have a contradictory one to respond. Don't cry when they do.

hagan714 10-31-2006 10:17 AM

LOL I did not bring Polamalu into it. just responding to Boba....

saintswhodi 10-31-2006 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714
LOL I did not bring Polamalu into it. just responding to Boba....

All he said is LaRon would make an impact along the same lines a sPolamalu. That's not far-fetched and is pretty reasonable IMO.

gandhi1007 10-31-2006 06:05 PM

I don't know.......his older brother is making one hell of an impact as a rookie & everyone in the country, including Dawan, knows LaRon is the better of the two. Just some food for thought for you guys.

Bobaganoosh 11-01-2006 01:06 AM

Thanks whodi...i never compared them as players...i compared the potential impact he could have on a defense to Polamalu's impact...thats it.

hagan714 11-01-2006 07:22 AM

point taken

papz 11-01-2006 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by LSUJeremy
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Originally Posted by papz
#1 Meriweather, Miami
#2 Landry, LSU

In every article I've seen about next years draft class Landry is always number one, and that was before the Miami brawl.

With Meriweather on tape stomping on the FIU player you can bet his draft stock has dropped.

Yeah his stock probably has dropped after that incident and regardless of how many articles you've read/seen, I still have Merriweather ranked higher. Landry might go first, but Merriweather has Shaun Taylor type of talent.

Bobaganoosh 11-01-2006 03:38 PM

I dont think that Meriweather is even close to as talented as Sean Taylor, and even if he is, you have to think that NFL teams are going to eventually start shying away from guys from the U. Not alltogether, but i think they will think twice about taking them so high in the draft...the list of thugs from the U is growing daily and most smart NFL teams want nothing to do with that.


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